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shadow29 12-07-2005 01:10 AM

Donkbet, hearts, etc.
 
5/10 short on PP

I'm in UTG+1. In UTG is a favorite LAG of mine. 56/26/2.

Important trend, however, is in his street by street AFs.

Flop- 1.6, Turn- 2.2, River- 4.2.

To me, this indicates that he loves to bluff and slowplay. This numerical trend is furthermore supported by observation of him bluffing A high into a 4 straight turn and bluff raising the river with an underpair (he has 6x board AJ68y).

I have A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

UTG limps, I raise, everyone else clears out, he calls. (5 and 2/5 SB).

Flop is T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

He checks, I bet.

Turn is 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

He bets.

At this point I call, planning on calling the river. Could raise here, should I have? My thinking was that there is definetly a chance that he could have hearts here. He could also be bluffing with air, or with a lone heart. Or he could be betting a 3 or a T or a J. Anything really. I think that he'll fold to a raise if he's behind, but he's 3-betting his flushes and sets. Perhaps 2 pair, not sure.

River is 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

He bets and I call.

Meh?

deepsquat 12-07-2005 01:23 AM

Re: Donkbet, hearts, etc.
 
U gotta raise the turn imo. A lag will surely c/r a flush. Is he smart enough to go for the bet/3bet from a TAG? I doubt it.

This will be random crap most of the time, maybe a heart draw/str8 draw.

LoaferGee12 12-07-2005 01:53 AM

Re: Donkbet, hearts, etc.
 
Yeah, given the read, I think this is a pretty easy raise.

Jinx 12-07-2005 06:18 AM

Re: Donkbet, hearts, etc.
 
That's how I play it. Even Lags get hands. If he's aggressive enough to bluff the river with a missed draw why would you want to "charge him" for it? He'll bet the river regardless, and it's not like he's going to call a river bet with a missed draw. Let him keep bluffing.

LoaferGee12 12-07-2005 05:17 PM

Re: Donkbet, hearts, etc.
 
[ QUOTE ]
That's how I play it. Even Lags get hands. If he's aggressive enough to bluff the river with a missed draw why would you want to "charge him" for it? He'll bet the river regardless, and it's not like he's going to call a river bet with a missed draw. Let him keep bluffing.

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You're going to miss an extra bet the times you are ahead of his pair by just calling down. It's not like we're raising for a free showdown.


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