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Supern 12-27-2005 05:09 AM

Weak-tight two pair?
 
Texas Hold'em No Limit $0.10/0.20 - 8 players

Players:
Hero (BTN) ($23.66)
MP ($19.07)
Villain (BB) ($20.02)

Hero was dealt: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

MP calls, Hero raises 0.80, Villain calls, MP calls

Flop (3 players, $2.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] - Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] - A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Villain check, MP check, Hero bets 1.50, Villain raise 3.00, MP folds, Hero calls

Turn (2 players, $8.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Villain bets 3.50, Hero folds

Opponent is loose-passive. This is his only ch-raise I have on him and I have 200 hands on him. When I think about it now it seems like a terrible fold. Should we ever be afraid of 99 here?

How do you handle two pair hands against aggression?
I have trouble playing them when they get very aggresive.

Fallen Hero 12-27-2005 05:15 AM

Re: Weak-tight two pair?
 
horribly weak tight. I call the flop and raise the turn

Supern 12-27-2005 05:35 AM

Re: Weak-tight two pair?
 
I know that every hand is a new hand, but prior to this I had been seeing alot of sets against me. That really gets into your head.

What do you put him on?
I think he most likely has AK, AJ-9. Could be Q9 even.

What if he had made a potsized bet on the turn? Still raise him then?

cardsharkk04 12-27-2005 05:41 AM

Re: Weak-tight two pair?
 
No way you can fold this. At this level if he's got a set you pay it off in a heartbeat. I like the flop raise, but raise more than just the minimum. After he leads the turn I just raise all in. If he checks the turn you value bet the turn for 3/4 of the pot. DO NOT FOLD THIS HAND EVER.

Supern 12-27-2005 05:54 AM

Re: Weak-tight two pair?
 
I didn't raise.
I got check-raised.
That was the action that surprised me.
Getting check-raised by a passive player is always scary.
But he may have picked up on the fact that I almost always CB. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Thanks for the reminder that I should never fold here.
And afterwards I totally agree.
Top two pair against BB and a limper.

Supern 12-27-2005 06:01 AM

Re: Weak-tight two pair?
 
On a board like this you play top two pair you like it is the nuts?
Especially against only 2 opponents.

Fallen Hero 12-27-2005 07:08 AM

Re: Weak-tight two pair?
 
[ QUOTE ]
On a board like this you play top two pair you like it is the nuts?
Especially against only 2 opponents.

[/ QUOTE ]

yeah, pretty much, if he has 99 I'll pay him off, np. I see A9 and worse aces a lot more

wdeadwyler 12-27-2005 07:08 AM

Re: Weak-tight two pair?
 
Raise turn all in. You had him beat. This is a terrible fold.

Supern 12-27-2005 07:35 AM

Re: Weak-tight two pair?
 
I agree that this fold is probably my worst yet. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

What if I had AJ?
Call the flop and fold the turn?
Or is that too weak-tight as well?

At this level it is very rare that players bet large bets when they are passive.
Usually big bets = very big hands.
On the other hand if he had the set he would have slowplayed it probably as that is the default play of sets at this level.

12-27-2005 08:45 AM

Re: Weak-tight two pair?
 
If you think you are beaten, you are probably beaten... Excellent fold!!! well done!..(You should fold this hand on the flop)


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