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KHALI 12-20-2005 10:23 PM

I raise so I can fold?
 
This hand has me thinking a bit but may be standard to most.

3/6 villian is moderately tight and moderately aggressive, I say his 3 bet vs possible steal here is ranging from any pair, any decent ace and any 2 paint.

Hero is in hijack with KcQh

folded to hero, hero raises, 2folds, SB 3bets, BBfolds.

Flop Q,4,6 rainbow

Villian bets, hero raises, villian 3 bets, hero??

This is a situation I find myself in with getting 3 bet and hitting only to face lots of action. How often would you cap this preflop as hand isn't really a steal hand and maybe the cap makes this decision easier. Give me a line in these situations.

Thanks.

Sarge85 12-20-2005 10:29 PM

Re: I raise so I can fold?
 
Given that he's acting out of the SB and not the BB I'd give him a bit more credit for a hand.

Since we have top pair/good kicker I want to see the turn.

He may think we're trying to muscle the pot, and he's on 88-JJ or something to that effect.

If I were him, and i had a premium hand against a potential steal - I'd probably wait until later streets before i put on the gas - however if i had 88-TT I want you (Hero) to fold now before more paint shows up.

Hero wants the river here.

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ewile 12-20-2005 10:33 PM

Re: I raise so I can fold?
 
When I get 3 bet pre-flop, and the hand gets heads-up, and I hit my hand on the flop as you did, I often just check/call to the River

In your particular hand at this point I'd call the 3 bet on the flop and proceed to check/call the turn and river.

TheHip41 12-20-2005 10:43 PM

Re: I raise so I can fold?
 
[ QUOTE ]
This hand has me thinking a bit but may be standard to most.

3/6 villian is moderately tight and moderately aggressive, I say his 3 bet vs possible steal here is ranging from any pair, any decent ace and any 2 paint.

Hero is in hijack with KcQh

folded to hero, hero raises, 2folds, SB 3bets, BBfolds.

Flop Q,4,6 rainbow

Villian bets, hero raises, villian 3 bets, hero??

This is a situation I find myself in with getting 3 bet and hitting only to face lots of action. How often would you cap this preflop as hand isn't really a steal hand and maybe the cap makes this decision easier. Give me a line in these situations.

Thanks.

[/ QUOTE ]

I still don't get why you guys raise this flop, or why on other hands you c/r out of position with TT on a 853 board after you have been 3 bet preflop.

What does raising do?

It gives someone a chance to fold a hand you crush, or, gives someone a chance to spank 3 bet you.

At 3/6, this guy is going to bet the flop, turn, and river, regardless of whether or not he is ahead of your Q. I'd just assume let him bet his TT on every street and not fold.

silkyslim 12-20-2005 10:55 PM

Re: I raise so I can fold?
 
I would cal down from here. no folding sir.


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