Early $27 Turbo with stars... QQ BB play along
 

PokerStars Game #3469121703: Tournament #17210819, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2005/12/29 - 11:33:35 (ET)
Table '17210819 1' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Kikken (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: lissa1310 (1300 in chips)
Seat 3: FrenchBouch (550 in chips)
Seat 4: Era5erhead (1470 in chips)
Seat 5: threelll2001 (1340 in chips)
Seat 6: DoggerPA (3220 in chips) (I am in the BB)
Seat 7: kevweb33 (1280 in chips)
Seat 8: snake-out (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: brokerman7 (1340 in chips)
threelll2001: posts small blind 10
DoggerPA: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DoggerPA [Qd Qc]
kevweb33: folds
snake-out: folds
brokerman7: folds
Kikken: calls 20
lissa1310: calls 20
FrenchBouch: folds
Era5erhead: folds
threelll2001: calls 10
DoggerPA: raises 80 to 100
Kikken: calls 80
lissa1310: calls 80
threelll2001: calls 80
*** FLOP *** [3d 4d 7h]
threelll2001: checks
DoggerPA: bets 400
Kikken: folds
lissa1310: raises 800 to 1200 and is all-in
threelll2001: raises 40 to 1240 and is all-in
DoggerPA: ?????

Re: Early $27 Turbo with stars... QQ BB play along
 

I think I'd reluctantly call against unknowns, and lay it down if I respected the overcaller in the least. Tough spot. Also don't think the full pot bet is necessary (250-300 accomplishes the same thing IMO), but that's a minor detail.

Re: Early $27 Turbo with stars... QQ BB play along
 

Yeah, this is ugly. Could just as easily be top pair with Ace kicker, as it could be a set at these stakes. Yuck. I think I call, but I'm not happy about doing it.

Re: Early $27 Turbo with stars... QQ BB play along
 

I would fold this.

If there were only one player who pushed, I would reluctantly call. But now there is an overcall/checkraisepush in the mix too.

If when the cards flip over if you're not against a set or a straight (i'd expect to see 77 most of the time, but people call small pocket pairs to raises all the time) then I'd be very surprised.


I fold reluctantly.

Re: Early $27 Turbo with stars... QQ BB play along
 

I played around 10 of these last night and I was amazed at what players were pushing with. I call here.

Re: Early $27 Turbo with stars... QQ BB play along
 

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If there were only one player who pushed, I would reluctantly call.

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If there were only one player who pushed, I would instantly call.

Re: Early $27 Turbo with stars... QQ BB play along
 

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If there were only one player who pushed, I would reluctantly call.

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If there were only one player who pushed, I would instantly call.

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So do you call here with 2 players?

Re: Early $27 Turbo with stars... QQ BB play along
 

I was somewhat worried about a set, but I have seen such bad play I call. if I was at 1500 I would have folded, but had doubled up so called...

I was thinking that one probably had an overpair like 9's and the other was A7

Button had T7o
SB had 44 for the set.

Didnt think a 44 would call that big of a raise pre

Re: Early $27 Turbo with stars... QQ BB play along
 

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If there were only one player who pushed, I would reluctantly call.

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If there were only one player who pushed, I would instantly call.

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I guess you haven't been running into sets that called your pre flop 4xraise with < 66 the last 5 times you've been raised like that on the flop.

It must be nice to run good ... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: Early $27 Turbo with stars... QQ BB play along
 

Dogger that is gross. I figure A7 and also an overpair. I have seen players at this level call any ace for a 3-4x raise. I call and lose also. Guess I have lots to learn.