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burgi 08-10-2005 01:08 PM

AKo Post Flop at $50+5
 
Hi,
would you play this hand any different and if yes, how?

***** Hand History for Game 2510903753 *****
30/60 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 14714158) - Wed Aug 10 12:19:41 EDT 2005
Table Table 11776 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: xxx(750)
Seat 2: Hero(2105)
Seat 3: xxx(440)
Seat 4: xxx(1225)
Seat 5: Villain(925)
Seat 7: xxx(490)
Seat 8: xxx(2230)
Seat 9: xxx(860)
Seat 10: xxx(975)
xxx posts small blind (15)
Villain posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ As, Kd ]
xxx folds.
xxx folds.
xxx folds.
xxx calls (30)
xxx calls (30)
Hero raises (150) to 150
xxx folds.
xxx folds.
Villain calls (120)
xxx folds.
xxx folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 5s, 9d, Ah ]
Villain checks.
Hero bets (175)
Villain calls (175)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5c ]
Villain checks.
Hero bets (450)
Villain raises (600) to 600
Villain is all-In.
Hero calls (150)
** Dealing River ** : [ 6h ]

Is this standard? Should I ever fold this hand with a flop like that and the turn pairing the board with a low card?

08-10-2005 01:14 PM

Re: AKo Post Flop at $50+5
 
I would just push the turn but that's kind of insignificant.

Does villain cold call your raise with 99? A read would help us in that spot.

Yeah, I think the turn requires less thinking when you just push. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

schwza 08-10-2005 01:15 PM

Re: AKo Post Flop at $50+5
 
i'm sorry he had a 5. there is no way you're folding this hand once you see the flop.

therock 08-10-2005 01:16 PM

Re: AKo Post Flop at $50+5
 
After the flop you have T1950 and Villian has T775, there are T365 chips in the pot. It should take you about 0.05 seconds to realize you are instantly pot committed after the flop. Just try to get all of Villian's chips in the pot. You don't care what the turn card is because you are pushing. I think your line on this hand was very standard.

bluefeet 08-10-2005 01:17 PM

Re: AKo Post Flop at $50+5
 

nah, not a problem...you have to call the mini-push reraise.

personally, i would have bet more on the flop though. looks like you got to flop with a pot of t360.

a lead of t280-300ish is more appropriate here considering your stack (or flat out push assuming you both had t700ish looking at a pot > 1/2 your size).

having done so, you now are pushing any turn card here IMO - where the pot has him essentially all-in anyway.

bennies 08-10-2005 01:19 PM

Re: AKo Post Flop at $50+5
 
nh

I make tiny modifications (raise 200 preflop, raise only 300 on the turn) but my goal remains the same, to get him allin with me.

burgi 08-10-2005 01:20 PM

Re: AKo Post Flop at $50+5
 
200? when the BB is 30? Don't you think that's a little too much?
(I'm not disagreeing, just wondering)
Also, I usually raise these to 125 at BB 30, but somehow got the little raise thing a little too far to the right lol

To the other question: I really don't have a read on the villain as we only did play 15 hands or so and he hasn't done anything out of the ordinary.

Also, I'm not even thinking about not calling his reraise. The question is more if I should have even raised the turn by that much or if I should slow down because he called the flop bet.

jgunnip 08-10-2005 02:53 PM

Re: AKo Post Flop at $50+5
 
I like the flop bet of 1/2 the pot. In fact that is my usual betting amount when I hit TPTK (holding an ace) on a fairly safe flop. I don't think you should ever fold this after the flop considering yours and villians stack sizes.

burgi 08-10-2005 06:18 PM

Re: AKo Post Flop at $50+5
 
Ok, thanks for all telling me that I would be crazy to fold this. And yes, he did have 99 and flopped his set. Oh well! I was still in good shape after this hand.

bennies 08-10-2005 07:08 PM

Re: AKo Post Flop at $50+5
 
I increase the initial raise amount according to how many limpers are in front of me, the more the merrier. After 4 limpers I might even push my whole stack with AK.

Still though, I feel these are minor details and I like the way you played it.


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