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deepsquat 05-16-2005 02:03 AM

blind stealing requirements?
 
What types of hands apart from the obvious raisable hands will you raise from the button or Sb when folded to?

Will you raise anything against your average neutrally aggressive opponent?

KKbluff 05-16-2005 02:59 AM

Re: blind stealing requirements?
 
This should answer your questions

link

Isura 05-16-2005 03:21 AM

Re: blind stealing requirements?
 
As a default, I'd say:

A2+, K8+, Q9+, J9+, T9, A2s+, K7s+, Q8s+, J8s+, 22+, 76s+

You can adjust these requirements depending on the tightness and skill of the blinds. Basically pocket pairs and high cards > T become more valuable.

Edit: These are all opening from the button. For the SB, it's more player dependent. BUt if you play full ring games, this occurs so rarely that a decent guideline is to raise any hand you plan to play. Something along the lines of
55+, A7+, KT+, QJ, JT, 76s is a decent start. Note that this is probably too tight, but in a full ring it won't hurt you that much. You have to be tighter from the SB generally with raising since you are out of position the rest of the hand.

aK13 05-16-2005 04:51 AM

Re: blind stealing requirements?
 
KKbluff, your avatar is from Bionic Commando, no?

bottomset 05-16-2005 05:10 AM

Re: blind stealing requirements?
 
my defaults

button: any ace, suited K, K7o, usually suited Q, JTs (QJo, JTo) occasionally

CO: suited aces, A7-8o, K9s, sometimes K8s, K7s, KTo .. ocassionally a couple others

its all about Highcard strength in stealing situations

Shillx 05-16-2005 05:32 AM

Re: blind stealing requirements?
 
Raise a lot of hands from the button against a default player. Let's make a little list...

55+ = 4.5%
Axo, Axs = 15.7%
K7o+, K5s+ = 7.8%
QJ-Q9/JT/J9/T9/Q8s/T8s/J8s = 8.1%

Total = 36.1%

Eh that might be a bit high but not too bad. Better to be doing too much then too little imo.

Brad

deepsquat 05-16-2005 06:12 AM

Re: blind stealing requirements?
 
cheers guys- so its ok to folded crap in the SB and give up the blind money, such as 64o or crap like that. It just feels dirty

Aaron W. 05-16-2005 12:08 PM

Re: blind stealing requirements?
 
This seems like a popular topic. The standards everyone is giving are your basic ABC raises. But blind stealing can be much more fun than that.

Blind steals may take the pot down immediately, but you may also set yourself up to take the pot down on the flop. See the HPFAP short-handed section for more details.

There seem to be four factors of blind stealing:

1) The blinds' preflop tightness (tighter = raise more)
2) The blinds' preflop aggressiveness (more aggressive = raise less)
3) The blinds' postflop tightness (tighter/weaker = raise more)
4) The blinds' postflop aggressiveness (more aggressive = raise less)

As you get to know the villains in the blinds, you can add or remove hands based on what extra information you know about their play. Use the suggestions as a guide, but as you feel more comfortable at the table, be free to experiment a little bit.


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