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Prevaricator 09-20-2005 08:49 PM

2knl on party, bluff it up
 
playing pretty tight so far, I don't think ive ever shown my cards, and these players are tight for the most part.

effective stacks 2k

edit: full table btw

Guy limps UTG, folded to me in mid position, I make it 80 with KT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] hoping to isolate. Folds back to him and he calls. His most likely holding IMO is a PP and then stuff like QJs JTs that kind of stuff.

Flop comes Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], the pot is 190.

He checks, I bet 170 and he thinks for a small amount of time, like maybe 10 seconds, and then minraises. I put him on a set of fives here, seems like JJ and QQ are less and even less likely, but QJ is a big possibility here as well.

I call hoping to hit that nine and bust the mofo. Turn is the 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], and he bets 350. I push.

Good, bad, ugly?

cero_z 09-20-2005 08:52 PM

Re: 2knl on party, bluff it up
 
Hi Prevaricator,

Good.

Allinlife 09-20-2005 09:00 PM

Re: 2knl on party, bluff it up
 
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I put him on a set of fives here, seems like JJ and QQ are less and even less likely, but QJ is a big possibility here as well.


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I push.


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I don't understand this logic. According to your read, why would villan fold his hand on a blank 5?

lapoker17 09-20-2005 09:01 PM

Re: 2knl on party, bluff it up
 
bc top 2 just got counterfitted...

AZK 09-20-2005 09:08 PM

Re: 2knl on party, bluff it up
 
nh

Allinlife 09-20-2005 09:19 PM

Re: 2knl on party, bluff it up
 
I have hard time believing an unknown on party would lay QJ here.. also, I don't think your representation of AA/KK would sell as good without presence of a preflop reraise.

DOTTT 09-20-2005 09:31 PM

Re: 2knl on party, bluff it up
 
utg limped.
My only question here is if utg is holding QJ does he know he just got counterfited, or is he thinking 'I'm getting all my money in with top two sweet!'

flawless_victory 09-20-2005 09:35 PM

Re: 2knl on party, bluff it up
 
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I have hard time believing an unknown on party would lay QJ here..

[/ QUOTE ]i think its more the opposite.

BobboFitos 09-20-2005 10:37 PM

Re: 2knl on party, bluff it up
 
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I have hard time believing an unknown on party would lay QJ here..

[/ QUOTE ]i think its more the opposite.

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and it's not like hero is dead to qj.. he does have about 25% equity

Prevaricator 09-20-2005 10:39 PM

Re: 2knl on party, bluff it up
 
I don't think he can call with QJ in this hand, in order of likelihood he will have JJ and then 55 or QQ (I think its a LOT less likely he limped with QQ than JJ). Of course I'm drawing dead against those.


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