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igbr1 10-07-2005 05:58 PM

Folded two top pairs
 
Should I fold here? Please, post you opinions.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (11 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (8 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, CO folds, Hero calls, UTG calls.

River: (12 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, Hero folds, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 15 BB

Shillx 10-07-2005 06:07 PM

Re: Folded two top pairs
 
Why did you check the turn? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

10-07-2005 06:08 PM

Re: Folded two top pairs
 
To Quote Ed Miller:

"WHEN THE POT IS BIG DO NOT FOLD DECENT HANDS FOR ONE BET! Just stop doing it."

medaugh 10-07-2005 06:13 PM

Re: Folded two top pairs
 
Should have lead or check raised the turn.

Ed Miller also said, " While a bettor can be bluffing a caller can not." I would fold the river to the caller. Heads up I would call though.

David04 10-07-2005 06:37 PM

Re: Folded two top pairs
 
Lead the turn.
Reads are good here, but I would probably call.

silencio 10-07-2005 06:47 PM

Re: Folded two top pairs
 
[ QUOTE ]
Lead the turn.
Reads are good here, but I would probably call.

[/ QUOTE ]

You must call. You have 4 outs to a boat and a "couple" of outs the nut flush one of them gives a royal flush.

I think I stick around.

aces_dad 10-07-2005 06:53 PM

Re: Folded two top pairs
 
The call line is about the river not the turn. HU I call, this is tougher with one overcall already and one more to act behind us (who at least hasn't bet this hand so a raise is unlikely).

LoaferGee12 10-07-2005 07:05 PM

Re: Folded two top pairs
 
Lead the turn, call a raise, and bet any improvement on the river. If you get raised on the turn, and miss on the river then I think you can safely check-fold.

10-07-2005 07:06 PM

Re: Folded two top pairs
 
I dont think the fold is terrible. If the spade wasnt a Q or J you have to call but now I dont think so.

grayhawk 10-07-2005 07:06 PM

Re: Folded two top pairs
 
The UTG+2 call sure seems like a Tx holding a straight but is not willing to raise in the face of a possible flush. You are in the dark because you got weak on the turn. If you bet out and get raised on the turn, I think it is much easier to lay down on the river. Without that info, I make a crying call in this big pot.


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