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10-19-2005 06:32 PM

Why Can\'t Poker Players Behave?
 
Read the following, from today's Card Player.com's coverage of the Doyle Brunson North American Classic:

"Tournament Director Jack McClelland just stopped play in the middle of level six for an announcement. After play concluded last night players were treated to a free buffet. Allegedly, a few of the "famous players" were abusive to the buffet staff, and the incident was brought to McClelland's attention. This prompted McClelland to issue a warning: any player who is abusive to buffet staff will be assessed at least a 30-minute penalty. "Behave like ladies and gentlemen," McClelland demanded, "or you can go down the street and pay for dinner."

This raises the question - why can't poker players, especially the famous ones, behave? I had always heard stories about dealers being treated terribly by some of the top professionals, but I guess I naively thought players kept their antics to the poker tables.

Personally, I think if a tournament player is "abusive" to anybody involved in the tournament or the hotel hosting the event, that they should be disqualified from the tournament and blinded off. It is the player's privilege to compete. There is no entitlement that allows players to throw temper tantrums, or act like children.

Photoc 10-19-2005 10:41 PM

Re: Why Can\'t Poker Players Behave?
 
Lots of these "famous players" just think they are too good for everyone else and that you must bow to their wishes at any and all times. Yet the casino is making the same money off them as the guy playing 2/5 NL.

As far as I'm concerned, these pricks can go Fck themselves. Guys like Johnny Chan, Sammi Farha and so on are total assholes.

Kevmath 10-20-2005 12:17 AM

Re: Why Can\'t Poker Players Behave?
 
I'm sure several of the "famous players" were complaining about Harrah's giving players a $10 food coupon at the WSOP this year. Then they get a free buffet at the Bellagio and they act like jerks. Of course not knowing all the details, it seems Harrah's had the right idea.

Josh W 10-20-2005 01:30 AM

Re: Why Can\'t Poker Players Behave?
 
I would guess (I have no numbers to back this up) that a higher percentage of poker pros are single (vs. non-poker pros). See, to accel at poker, you need to have a certain "me first", greedy, cut-throat personality. That does not lend itself to good family relationships.

It also doesn't lend itself to treating others with respect.

Or, simply put...bad behaviour "comes with the territory"

Josh

Bartman387 10-20-2005 02:33 AM

Re: Why Can\'t Poker Players Behave?
 
There are famous people who are jerks and There are non-famous people who are jerks. But how often do you hear rumors on the web or in tabloids about John Doe being abusive to wait staff compared to how often you hear the same story about a famous person?

GrunchCan 10-20-2005 11:26 AM

Re: Why Can\'t Poker Players Behave?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I would guess (I have no numbers to back this up) that a higher percentage of poker pros are single (vs. non-poker pros). See, to accel at poker, you need to have a certain "me first", greedy, cut-throat personality. That does not lend itself to good family relationships.

It also doesn't lend itself to treating others with respect.

Or, simply put...bad behaviour "comes with the territory"

Josh

[/ QUOTE ]

Bullshit. Even if it isn't bullshit, that still doesn't validate the bad behavior of some famous players.

JohnnyHumongous 10-20-2005 11:38 AM

Re: Why Can\'t Poker Players Behave?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I would guess (I have no numbers to back this up) that a higher percentage of poker pros are single (vs. non-poker pros). See, to accel at poker, you need to have a certain "me first", greedy, cut-throat personality. That does not lend itself to good family relationships.

It also doesn't lend itself to treating others with respect.

Or, simply put...bad behaviour "comes with the territory"

Josh

[/ QUOTE ]

But which came first, the chicken or the egg?

benfranklin 10-20-2005 12:09 PM

Re: Why Can\'t Poker Players Behave?
 
[ QUOTE ]
This raises the question - why can't poker players, especially the famous ones, behave? I had always heard stories about dealers being treated terribly by some of the top professionals, but I guess I naively thought players kept their antics to the poker tables.

[/ QUOTE ]

It has nothing to do with poker. Some people are butt-heads, no matter what profession they are in. Public figures who are butt-heads are more obvious, but no worse than the ones you never hear about. The poker player berating a buffet server is just as big a butt-head as the guy in line next to you in the store talking loudly into his cell phone.

cwsiggy 10-20-2005 01:24 PM

Re: Why Can\'t Poker Players Behave?
 
Must be really sad when you have to be abusive to the buffet helpers.

PJS 10-20-2005 03:34 PM

Re: Why Can\'t Poker Players Behave?
 
If anyone is abusive or disrespectful, regardless of fame or wealth, they should get thrown out. It really is that simple.


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