Another brilliant 1/2 6-max session (no-content whine post)
 

6-max is definitely getting to me. I think I'm going to to go back to 1/2 full for a bit to get my head on straight, then move up to 2/4.

The following stats are from my last session, which puts me down 150BB over 6k hands, for a winrate of -2.6/100:
http://img279.echo.cx/img279/784/isuck9xe.jpg

I didn't think it was possible to have a W$@SD that low. Note that includes an absolutely massive pot I won with an unimproved AA.

The only semi-questionable hand was the following:
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, BB folds.

Turn: (4.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: (12.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14.25 BB

Villain was loose and quite aggressive, so I felt there were a large number of hands villain would raise on the turn, including A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] with any pair, two pair, or a set (unlikely - he would reraise all but 88 preflop, I think). Still, the 3-bet seemed like a little much, though I may be getting a little results oriented. Maybe call the turn, and c/r a non-spade river, folding to a 3-bet?

Re: Another brilliant 1/2 6-max session (no-content whine post)
 

Nah I think you played the hand right.

Re: Another brilliant 1/2 6-max session (no-content whine post)
 

It can be worse.

http://img281.echo.cx/img281/9751/fck5wu.jpg

Re: Another brilliant 1/2 6-max session (no-content whine post)
 

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It can be worse.

http://img281.echo.cx/img281/9751/fck5wu.jpg

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You're too tight [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

EDIT: And you fold too much.

EDIT2: I've also lost 70% of that, at 1/5 the limit, in half the hands. So take that!

Re: Another brilliant 1/2 6-max session (no-content whine post)
 

But the rakeback is good yes?

Re: Another brilliant 1/2 6-max session (no-content whine post)
 

Is this a Clarkmeister bet-the-river situation?

Re: Another brilliant 1/2 6-max session (no-content whine post)
 

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But the rakeback is good yes?

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It is great 4-tabling. But I'm not really doing better than breaking even.

Re: Another brilliant 1/2 6-max session (no-content whine post)
 

Yep. I'd bet/call the river.

Re: Another brilliant 1/2 6-max session (no-content whine post)
 

I dropped 50BB in 107 hands this morning. My W$@SD was lower. You need to get use to variance to be successful.

Krishan

Re: Another brilliant 1/2 6-max session (no-content whine post)
 

I don't think it's a Clarkmeister situation because only the A and K of spades will beat you and you will not get them to fold. A bet is possible here to try to draw an extra bet out of a lower spade, but I kind of like the way it was played.

Re: Another brilliant 1/2 6-max session (no-content whine post)
 

I think it is a Clarkmeister situation because you can get a call out of a strong hand without a spade and certainly from a lower spade.

Re: Another brilliant 1/2 6-max session (no-content whine post)
 

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I think it is a Clarkmeister situation because you can get a call out of a strong hand without a spade and certainly from a lower spade.

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I'm probably wrong. I thought it was when you didn't have anything and you were trying to get a better non-spade hand to fold. I haven't looked at it in a long time though. Regardless though, betting the river probably is the right play for the reasons you mentioned.

Re: Another brilliant 1/2 6-max session (no-content whine post)
 

A no-content reply to my own no-content post: I now feel better about myself (this is from the first session since the last).

http://img266.echo.cx/img266/1091/126maxgood6kq.jpg

Re: Another brilliant 1/2 6-max session (no-content whine post)
 

When you're betting the river on a 4flush board HU, the primary reason you're doing it is not to get better hands to fold. Typically, better hands won't fold. The deuce of trump will usually call. A set will usually call. Hell, bottom pair will sometimes call, "because they had to know." You're betting the river for value. You bet because you don't want a worse hand to check behind. Additionally, hands like sets and two pair have an awfully hard time raising your bet. Even the deuce of trump will have a hard time raising your bet. You get to see the river for the same one bet it'd cost to check/call, and you don't let the other guy check behind. Very seldom in full ring micros games do you ever get a hand better than whatever you're holding to fold.

If he does raise you, well, you've got a decision to make. How big is the pot? Does this guy bluff? Would he raise if he just spiked 2 pair? It's not easy, but you can make the right decsion.

Re: Another brilliant 1/2 6-max session (no-content whine post)
 

i bet/call this river.

Re: Another brilliant 1/2 6-max session (no-content whine post)
 

This hand was one of the most brilliantly played hands I have ever seen from another player. He meta-meta-meta gamed my ass to pwntown with the stone-cold nuts.

(And yes, I should have raised pre-flop.)

PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Heroine is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, Button calls, SB completes, Heroine checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Heroine bets</font>, UTG folds, MP calls, Button folds, SB folds.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Heroine bets</font>, MP calls.

River: (5.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Heroine bets</font>, MP calls.

Final Pot: 7.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Heroine has Ad 8d (one pair, eights).
MP has Qs 5s (flush, queen high).

Outcome: MP wins 7.50 BB. </font>

-K