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HoldEmKillah 12-25-2005 11:59 AM

10/20 KK: what now?
 
Somewhat common occurance but at 10/20 sh'd a reraise preflop means, well, not much. Villian is same one from the other A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] hand...he's 26/14 over 400+ hands and very aggressive.

I'm wondering weather or not this is a push just 'cuz. Or if I should be checking to pick off a bluff with QQ or whatever he's got because AK and AA and AQ are definitely calling a push.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB ($2000)
Hero ($2111)
MP ($401)
Button ($1979)
SB ($1296)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $75</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $225</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $700</font>, Button thinks for awhile and calls $475.

Flop: ($1430) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Hero?

Yeti 12-25-2005 12:03 PM

Re: 10/20 KK: what now?
 
Preflop sucks.

fsuplayer 12-25-2005 12:06 PM

Re: 10/20 KK: what now?
 
whose villian?

you can PM me if you'd like.

fsuplayer 12-25-2005 12:07 PM

Re: 10/20 KK: what now?
 
and i agree with yeti about pf.

HoldEmKillah 12-25-2005 12:18 PM

Re: 10/20 KK: what now?
 
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and i agree with yeti about pf.

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explain please. You don't like 3betting w/KK?

btw...merry christmas everyone.

HoldEmKillah 12-25-2005 12:26 PM

Re: 10/20 KK: what now?
 
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and i agree with yeti about pf.

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explain please. You don't like 3betting w/KK?

btw...merry christmas everyone.

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we're talking 5handed. I can see 3betting being ugly full ring.

JMa 12-25-2005 03:23 PM

Re: 10/20 KK: what now?
 
I would just call his reraise preflop.

Check-folding on this flop is ok for me, he should have (JJ)QQ+ and maybe AKs.

flawless_victory 12-25-2005 03:45 PM

Re: 10/20 KK: what now?
 
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whose villian?

you can PM me if you'd like.

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flawless_victory 12-25-2005 03:45 PM

Re: 10/20 KK: what now?
 
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Preflop sucks.

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disagree.
totally disagree.

DonButtons 12-25-2005 04:01 PM

Re: 10/20 KK: what now?
 
yea, short handed, 3 betting is good, specially if you have a fast image..

mgsimpleton 12-25-2005 06:36 PM

Re: 10/20 KK: what now?
 
preflop is excellent. i'd probably have raised to 800 or so and made a commitment decision there, but anyways 3 betting is great. don't listen to the haters.

i think his most likely hand here is a PP, dont you? basically you have to decide whether you are going to ever let this go... if you will let it go, i'd probably lead/fold to a raise all in (though i think it's ugly). most likely i'm c/r all in here. if he checks behind, then you're on your own as to how the action goes. anyways it is nice to be able to make commitment decision preflop and i think raising just 100 more or so does the trick.

kagame 12-26-2005 06:34 AM

Re: 10/20 KK: what now?
 
i also like a bigger reraise or a cold call, because youre out of position and are giving away your hand strength with too little going into the pot, disregard this if the competition is soft enough that you want them to flop top pair and go broke with a junk 20 hand

just a quick question, dont mean to hijack

if in a typical 10/20 game you make it $1000 to go for a hefty three bet, will people commonly call with any hand besides KK/AA?

imo cant see a big ace just calling this sort of hypothetical reraise, its all in or fold, so if you raise to that amount you have to play KK for your entire stack on an A high board, but its still very bizarre

flawless_victory 12-26-2005 10:03 AM

Re: 10/20 KK: what now?
 
well, check it. cant see why you want to bet here, he certainly doesnt have AQ... AK and AA are possible (likely), JJ seems not so likely. clear check.
then tell us what happened next...


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