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FlyWf 07-01-2005 08:41 PM

Is this a bad river fold?
 
Well, from the responses to my stat post I've been trying to loosen up and stop folding winners, especially on the river. I just couldn't bring myself to call this one. No reads.
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (7 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (5 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

River: (8 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, SB calls, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 10 BB

NDHand 07-01-2005 08:45 PM

Re: Is this a bad river fold?
 
Yes, horrible fold. Even worse than bet/fold since you might have induced a bluff with your check. Terrible fold.

edit : just noticed the caller, which makes this a very bad fold instead of the worse fold ever :P

Delzek15 07-01-2005 08:47 PM

Re: Is this a bad river fold?
 
Yuck... Your the last to act with no one behind you so you know it can't be raised after you call. It's ONE bet and you have a set.

Dave G. 07-01-2005 09:12 PM

Re: Is this a bad river fold?
 
Horrible fold dude.

FlyWf 07-01-2005 09:14 PM

Re: Is this a bad river fold?
 
I can't imagine anyone calling a bet on a 4 straight/3flush board with hand that doesn't beat me.

no1super2001 07-01-2005 09:25 PM

Re: Is this a bad river fold?
 
Terrible. Even if you are raised on the river, do you really think you will lose this more than 5 of 6 times?

Actually you should win about 40% of the time, bet it and call the raise.

NDHand 07-01-2005 09:26 PM

Re: Is this a bad river fold?
 
I like the check/call line to induce a bluff here.

FlyWf 07-01-2005 09:50 PM

Re: Is this a bad river fold?
 
That was the gameplan, but the caller influenced me to fold.

NDHand 07-01-2005 10:07 PM

Re: Is this a bad river fold?
 
Many hands can call here. QT, JT, QJ for instance. A flush or straight would have probably raised here too.

imported_Reaction 07-01-2005 10:44 PM

Re: Is this a bad river fold?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I like the check/call line to induce a bluff here.

[/ QUOTE ]

Why? I guess I am saying that a card that finishes a bunch of draws does not seem like the optimal time to "induce a bluff". I would rather do it when my chance of calling and loseing is not increased.


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