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12-28-2005 01:45 AM

set vs possible flush, and facing push
 
Villain is 42/3, and 2.8 postflop aggro. Only 31 hands.

PokerRoom No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($40.30)
SB ($90.50)
BB ($136.40)
Hero ($100.00)
MP ($85.85)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, MP calls $4, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $3.50, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($16) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, MP calls $15, SB folds, BB folds.

Turn: ($46) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $66.85 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $112.85

Maulik 12-28-2005 01:56 AM

Re: set vs possible flush, and facing push
 
I'd call against a loosey donk.

He's likely moving in with your lack of aggression &amp; his single heart.

12-28-2005 02:20 AM

Re: set vs possible flush, and facing push
 
the more i reread this post the more i kick myself for not clling this. [censored] me

guns4show 12-28-2005 02:25 AM

Re: set vs possible flush, and facing push
 
[ QUOTE ]
Villain is 42/3, and 2.8 postflop aggro. Only 31 hands.

PokerRoom No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($40.30)
SB ($90.50)
BB ($136.40)
Hero ($100.00)
MP ($85.85)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, MP calls $4, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $3.50, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($16) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, MP calls $15, SB folds, BB folds.

Turn: ($46) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $66.85 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $112.85

[/ QUOTE ]
You have to ask yourself: "Why am I checking the turn."

You should be $30 and bet the same on the river assuming no heart or straight card.

12-28-2005 02:27 AM

Re: set vs possible flush, and facing push
 
He called a pot sized bet on the flop.
I'd fold.
Granted, after the check from hero on the turn . . .
Would someone recommend overbetting the flop?
(I guess Doyle would ) [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Or is betting the turn, as proposed by the last poster, the best play?

And if so, how much?

I mean what's the amount that you would pick to bet on the turn which you would absolutely give it up if raised but you think would cause a drawing hand to fold?

Pot again?
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12-28-2005 02:57 AM

Re: set vs possible flush, and facing push
 
The way I would play it in retrospect is to block the turn for 2/3 pot. If he calls its check/fold. I think a made flush is going to try to extract value, there is no way that push is a flush, more like turned two pair.

I never overbet my sets because I WANT action. My standard on a drawing board is pot. The only thing that can call correctly is a combo draw with overs for the coinflip.


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