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silkyslim 12-10-2005 03:26 AM

WTF!!!! AT
 
villain is 33/0/1.7. What do you guys think?

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, Hero checks.

River: (7 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11 BB

Vote4Pedro 12-10-2005 03:35 AM

Re: WTF!!!! AT
 
PF, Flop, Turn are all solid. No question, gotsta bet the river...I say [censored] it and pay the dude off as well. What did the douchebag show?

If this hand took place in a live game, I'd probably fight the villian...

silkyslim 12-10-2005 03:49 AM

Re: WTF!!!! AT
 
[ QUOTE ]
PF, Flop, Turn are all solid. No question, gotsta bet the river...I say [censored] it and pay the dude off as well. What did the douchebag show?

If this hand took place in a live game, I'd probably fight the villian...

[/ QUOTE ]
i will definately vote 4 pedro, douchbag showed <font color="white"> A7o, MHIG </font>

TripleH68 12-10-2005 03:50 AM

Re: WTF!!!! AT
 
When multitabling and I see 33/0/1.7 over a good number of hands, lookout.

I think I take the free showdown and notes on what hand villain plays like this except maybe Ax [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. I don't see the value in betting this river. These types often freeze up and get fancy with monsters...and on the other hand I don't want to be calling a raise unless I have seen him bluff before.

Schwartzy61 12-10-2005 05:45 AM

Re: WTF!!!! AT
 
I will say ATo is one of my least favorite playable hands...

With really no chance to improve I bet the turn and if he just calls hope for a free showdown. If he checkraises the turn I just release it...

bottomset 12-10-2005 05:53 AM

Re: WTF!!!! AT
 
I think I would be so confused by the double check that I'd check behind and see what they had ...it seems like its either garbage or something superstrong that is setting up the c/r foolishly(pre-river c/r) I don't see much calling you that you beat

edit: I think the hand is more interesting to look at if you chop the action at your river decison

12-10-2005 09:19 AM

Re: WTF!!!! AT
 
I take the free showdown or fold to the c/r.

12-10-2005 09:51 AM

Re: WTF!!!! AT
 
I bet $1 on A9o

AlmightyJay 12-10-2005 10:38 AM

Re: WTF!!!! AT
 
[ QUOTE ]
villain is 33/0/1.7. What do you guys think?

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, Hero checks.

River: (7 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11 BB

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I don't like the preflop raise. In late position I'll raise ATo, but not in middle position, generally.

I think I check this river through. I want to show this hand down cheaply after he three-bets the flop. You're probably behind, and you didn't improve. Some players even play their turned flush this way - sort of like a delayed slowplay.

@bsolute_luck 12-10-2005 10:46 AM

Re: WTF!!!! AT
 
preflop is the easiest raise.
flop. i gots to cap it. i think we have the best hand. turn card sux as that is what i would have put him on, so bet/fold the turn and would have taken the free showdown.


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