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Jman28 12-02-2004 10:19 PM

Bubble Aggression Hand Party $30+3
 
How's this reraise?


Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: krab3748 ( $1530 )
Seat 2: Coeuret ( $10 )
Seat 4: HERO ( $5905 )
Seat 9: jeppow ( $555 )
Trny:7606649 Level:5
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to skinsftbl [ 3d 7d ]
krab3748 raises [900].
Coeuret folds.
skinsftbl raises [1700].

UMTerp 12-02-2004 10:34 PM

Re: Bubble Aggression Hand Party $30+3
 
If the player isn't any good, it's OK. If he's competent, he has queens minimum. It's pretty player-dependent. You obviously thought he could lay the hand down since you did it though. You have to think there's an 75%+ chance you're getting called here though.

SmileyEH 12-02-2004 10:39 PM

Re: Bubble Aggression Hand Party $30+3
 
No point to reraise...he is comitted already and will definetly not fold.

-SmileyEH

Jman28 12-02-2004 10:42 PM

Re: Bubble Aggression Hand Party $30+3
 
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If the player isn't any good, it's OK. If he's competent, he has queens minimum. It's pretty player-dependent. You obviously thought he could lay the hand down since you did it though. You have to think there's an 75%+ chance you're getting called here though.

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He's semi-competent. I expected AJ and a laydown.

Jman28 12-02-2004 10:45 PM

Re: Bubble Aggression Hand Party $30+3
 
[ QUOTE ]
No point to reraise...he is comitted already and will definetly not fold.

-SmileyEH

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I felt he'd lay it down, lock 3rd and have a good shot at 2nd.

The small stack is going next round.

eastbay 12-02-2004 11:29 PM

Re: Bubble Aggression Hand Party $30+3
 
Not a play I would make. I don't think he folds enough to make it profitable. I think a lot of $33 players are stuck at $33 because of "pride calls" like this, or other "you're gonna push me around, I'll show you!" plays that are self-destructive. Unfortunately, that tendency hurts both of you here, dumping huge $EV to the players staying out of the way.

eastbay

Jman28 12-02-2004 11:40 PM

RESULTS
 
He did call. Turned over 77, and then I flushed him. Felt kinda bad.

I guess I took aggression too far here. Thanks for the responses.

-Jman28

texasrattlers 12-03-2004 02:30 AM

Re: Bubble Aggression Hand Party $30+3
 
dumb?

ColdestCall 12-03-2004 12:39 PM

Re: Bubble Aggression Hand Party $30+3
 
I think there is nothing wrong with this reraise and you should make it every time. Krab is a dope for getting involved here with 77 and he got exactly what he deserved when you flushed on him.

Vanquish 12-03-2004 01:03 PM

Re: Bubble Aggression Hand Party $30+3
 
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I think there is nothing wrong with this reraise and you should make it every time. Krab is a dope for getting involved here with 77 and he got exactly what he deserved when you flushed on him.

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What are you talking about? The only reason it is questionable for Krab to get involved is because there's a great chance he can lock up third by folding. Beyond that, I believe in an aggressive bubble strategy and my read on the situation is that I would have a good amount of folding equity because (barring monster hands) everyone is likely to sit on their hands until the short stack busts. I would have just pushed in this situation with 77 hoping to steal the blinds. Yeah yeah, you're risking a 4th place finish, but what's the saying? "Settle for fourth, gamble for first." Hero here had a huge chip lead and if Krab is looking for a win, then he needs to go after every chip he can and 77 is a pretty good bubble/blind stealing hand.

Anyway... I don't like the reraise from HERO. It relies on the assumption Krab is a poor enough player to raise for 60% of his stack and then abandon his hand to a reraise. I wouldn't make that assumption without a pretty good read. And even if I did have that read, I probably wouldn't make this play 95% of the time with as weak a hand as 37s. You're not playing back at him so much as trying for a resteal (since you have no hand at all), but again you have to have a good idea that 1) he sucks, and 2) he's on a steal attempt not supported by a decent hand. And there's usually no way to get that sort of read in this situation. Hero can easily coast into the money and if he wants to win he should be getting his money in in better situations than this one.


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