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milesdyson 12-03-2005 04:11 PM

AA - i suxor
 
clearing the 20to120gift on party. 4-tabling 1/2 so i'm not really getting as much info as i usually do.

SB is 50/0/~0.2 after like 20 hands so i have no idea about him really.

UTG is 50/9/~3 after about 40 hands. i've seen him be a bit overaggressive with tptk against a passive player. capped the flop and raised the turn and called down after a 3-bet with AK on K8773, other dude had 87.

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Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

<font color="#666666">utg surely has AA-JJ/AK[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (maybe he doesn't even cap JJ preflop so i'm really looking good against him). sb scares me.</font>

Turn: (12.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

<font color="#666666">ok, i'm calling down.</font>

River: (15.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises?</font>

<font color="#666666">after his turn call there's almost no way he has JJ, and he wouldnt bluff bet here with AK[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB was donking around with a J? a flush draw? maybe he has J6? QQ? TT? i figure they'll both call my raise or SB was going to fold for one anyway.</font>

12-03-2005 04:14 PM

Re: AA - i suxor
 
im raising that turn nearly everytime, where you planning on raising the river is sb bet and utg called?

milesdyson 12-03-2005 04:19 PM

Re: AA - i suxor
 
nope. when i said "ok, i'm calling down" i meant that when sb kept leading, i would call down.

had sb checked the turn and utg bet it, i would have raised.

Marquis 12-03-2005 04:32 PM

Re: AA - i suxor
 
Raising the turn after the check/3-bet on the flop is no good. It sure looks like Jx or QQ when he wusses out on the river though, so I like the river raise. And if he pulls off a check/3-bet again, congratulations to him.

milesdyson 12-03-2005 04:59 PM

Re: AA - i suxor
 
the river action:

River: (15.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero folds.

good?

DCWildcat 12-03-2005 06:00 PM

Re: AA - i suxor
 
Why not just call? I'm not saying it's right, I'm just curious.

Peter Harris 12-03-2005 06:09 PM

Re: AA - i suxor
 
nah, given the action i think a fold is acceptabool here. Maybe J3o/63s/66 for the flop 2 pair/set ch/3b. I don't think SB would do this with QQ/KK...

Redd 12-03-2005 06:12 PM

Re: AA - i suxor
 
Wow. I've tried to write like 3 replies to this hand.

I like the raise, and I say if SB is crazy enough to check-3bet twice in one hand, he might be crazy enough to do it with J6 3-pair or when his AJ "improves" to 2-pair. I can't say with enough certainty in this huge pot that he wouldn't. He's an unknown. I'm not afraid of overcalling the guy in the middle, since I'm beating him the vast majority of the time. I'd probably pay off and regret it later.

Marquis 12-03-2005 06:17 PM

Re: AA - i suxor
 
That pot is freaking enormous. 23-1?

Marquis 12-03-2005 06:34 PM

Re: AA - i suxor
 
[ QUOTE ]
I'd probably pay off and regret it later.

[/ QUOTE ]

You'd regret folding a winner 23 times as much. The more I think about this hand, the more I think folding is really bad.


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