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James282 03-22-2005 05:53 PM

I feel bad for Barry Bonds
 
Barry Bonds has said he won't be playing until midseason, and is possibly not playing at all this season. He is citing extreme emotional duress and media harassment of his family.

"I don't wan't my kids to cry anymore."

And this is what happens when the media takes something like baseball just a little bit too seriously.

Thank God I drafted Bobby Abreu instead of Bonds in my keeper league!
-James

GrekeHaus 03-22-2005 06:04 PM

Re: I feel bad for Barry Bonds
 
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"I don't wan't my kids to cry anymore."

And this is what happens when the media takes something like baseball just a little bit too seriously.

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Bonds is always trying to elicit sympathy by bringing his kids into it. This just pisses me off more than anything. He got to the be one of the greatest players ever by cheating, then whines about it when he gets caught. Give me a [censored]' break. He knew the possible consequences of his actions when he started taking steroids, now he's trying to make the rest of us feel bad about the decisions he conciously made.

03-22-2005 06:08 PM

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I don't wan't my kids to cry anymore.

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Hey Barry, you think this is bad, wait til the feds nail your ass for perjury.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.

istewart 03-22-2005 06:08 PM

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He got to the be one of the greatest players ever by cheating

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Unlike McGwire, I think he was clearly on the greatest player track before *alleged* steroid use.

GrekeHaus 03-22-2005 06:19 PM

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Unlike McGwire, I think he was clearly on the greatest player track before *alleged* steroid use.

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McGwire had 49 home runs his rookie season and has admitted to taking supplements that were legal when he was taking them.

Bonds would have been a HOFer even if he didn't use steroids, but never would have gotten to the point he's at now.

istewart 03-22-2005 06:24 PM

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Unlike McGwire, I think he was clearly on the greatest player track before *alleged* steroid use.

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McGwire had 49 home runs his rookie season and has admitted to taking supplements that were legal when he was taking them.

Bonds would have been a HOFer even if he didn't use steroids, but never would have gotten to the point he's at now.

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Yeah. His stature wouldn't have been close to what it is today, but he still had 3 MVPs prior to his post-2000 home-run spree and got gypped out of another, IMHO.

03-22-2005 06:26 PM

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Unlike McGwire, I think he was clearly on the greatest player track before *alleged* steroid use.

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This is absolutely untrue. Let's assume he started using steroids in the late 90's. Look at his numbers. He was a very good player. Maybe even a great player. But he was far from "greatest player ever". What he has done since he turned ~ 35 is what brings him into the stratosphere, and unfortunately it seems that it was all done while on the juice.

PS, we don't know when he started taking them. They've been around for a while. Remember Lyle Alzado? Bonds could have been on them as early as 1990 or 1991, when his career started to take off.

istewart 03-22-2005 06:33 PM

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Unlike McGwire, I think he was clearly on the greatest player track before *alleged* steroid use.

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This is absolutely untrue. Let's assume he started using steroids in the late 90's. Look at his numbers. He was a very good player. Maybe even a great player. But he was far from "greatest player ever". What he has done since he turned ~ 35 is what brings him into the stratosphere, and unfortunately it seems that it was all done while on the juice.

PS, we don't know when he started taking them. They've been around for a while. Remember Lyle Alzado? Bonds could have been on them as early as 1990 or 1991, when his career started to take off.

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You're right, I exaggerated a bit too much. My main point was that his career was obviously not completely created by steroids. He was clearly a great player when he was "thin."

sublime 03-22-2005 06:53 PM

Re: I feel bad for Barry Bonds
 
"I don't wan't my kids to cry anymore."

stop cheating on thier mother

B Dids 03-22-2005 07:15 PM

Re: I feel bad for Barry Bonds
 
I have always believe that Barry was mostly misunderstood and got a bad rap from the media.

Barry is going a good job of make me think otherwise as of late, and that is sad.


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