\"Default situational plays\" - your favorites?
 

I know this is a rather odd question, “default situational plays” – just seems like an oxymoron, doesn’t it?

Anyway, since success at NL poker depends greatly on ability to “play the players”, ie, make situational plays, I thought it be prudent to ask what your favourite moves/adaptions are when you have solid reads on active opponents in various situations?

Just a few starters:

Preflop

Often limp AA/KK in EP/MP when there are overly aggressive/loose and weak players in LP on big stacks, and go for a huge reraise/ push. There’s a good chance to get a terrible call from AK/JJ or even worse.

Frequently call tight PFRs on big stacks who can’t lay down big pairs with any pair or SC or other holding with any real potential.

On the flop
As PFR, holding value (>=TPTK) on draw-friendly flop (2-flush and/or connectors) against two muppets who just can’t fold a flush draw or OE-draw, overbet massively and give them a chance to really make an appalling call.


Of course there are myriads of useful plays to resort to when up against well known opponents. What are your favourites?

thanks,
Zal3

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Interesting thread,
why not include both "creative" moves and also "obvious" adaptions?

Surely, there are many NL players who don't adapt well to known characteristics of opponents.
But some situations should be more obvious than others.

I add these ones here:

OBVIOUS plays
1. Don't EVER bluff a calling station.


Creative
2. Up against a tight and weak player who bets the flop, call in position with any non-flush draw (>=4 outs) when there are 2 cards to a flush on the flop. Then if either your draw hits on turn, or a flush-card falls you bet/reraise big time.
Good example would be if you played a suited connector, and got a gutshot draw on the flop. With a 2-flush board you'll have 4+11 "outs" (total remaining cards 47, so 15:32), and can thus afford to call with 2:1 odds (a pot-sized flop bet).

/jaxz

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Barry Greenstein had a few nice nuggets on Live at the Bike last night. Pretty straight forward.

1. Stop playing Ax from late position as in Nl they are just trouble hands.

2. When someone is stuck, you can loosen up your calling requirements against them. Always be aware of who is stuck.

3. J10 and K10os and the like are trouble hands. You can occasionaly raise with them from late position but what are you going to do when you pair them?

4. Raise with 109 suited just like you would with AA so people can't read you. Limping is too obvious you have suited connectors and the like.

5. Stop limping in NL! It is dangerous.

6. The best one - Playing with girls is important, but when you're stuck, getting your money back is as important because you have to get the money back first before you can play with the girls.

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I raise AK, get a call from a LAG who limped before me.

Flop is something like A J 6. He checks, I make my 'continuation bet'. He calls.

Turn goes check-check.

He bets big on the river, I insta-call and he flips over QJ thinking it was good the entire way. Or, he flips over air. They just never expect someone to check top pair on the turn.

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I raise AK, get a call from a LAG who limped before me.

Flop is something like A J 6. He checks, I make my 'continuation bet'. He calls.

Turn goes check-check.

He bets big on the river, I insta-call and he flips over QJ thinking it was good the entire way. Or, he flips over air. They just never expect someone to check top pair on the turn.

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This play is GOLD. I use this all the time with great success. Also keeps you out of trouble with a 1 pair hand when he has you smoked and was trying for the c/r on the turn.

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If an opponents min-bet in late position on the flop means mid/bottom pair no kicker, or just air, I check-call the min-bet with any two, and lead on any turn. Against the right people, I get a fold every time. Most useful in 6 max, though.

Ojo_Rojo

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What do you mean when someone is 'stuck'?

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I've been playing with this lately....

1) Raising PF with a mid-high pp (like 10s). After you, a tight player reraises you and you firmly place him on a high pocket pair JJ-AA. You are certain you are behind.

The flop comes Ace high. Bet into him. He folds anything except Aces.

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When they are losing.

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My favorite play is to open limp/re-raise from the SB.

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I've been playing with this lately....

1) Raising PF with a mid-high pp (like 10s). After you, a tight player reraises you and you firmly place him on a high pocket pair JJ-AA. You are certain you are behind.

The flop comes Ace high. Bet into him. He folds anything except Aces.

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Sooooo ... you lose the pot on all non A-high flops, and steal the pot on all A-high flops, except when he has AA? Sounds like a losing move to me.

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I've been playing with this lately....

1) Raising PF with a mid-high pp (like 10s). After you, a tight player reraises you and you firmly place him on a high pocket pair JJ-AA. You are certain you are behind.

The flop comes Ace high. Bet into him. He folds anything except Aces.

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Sooooo ... you lose the pot on all non A-high flops, and steal the pot on all A-high flops, except when he has AA? Sounds like a losing move to me.

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You also win massively on all Txx flops.

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I've been playing with this lately....

1) Raising PF with a mid-high pp (like 10s). After you, a tight player reraises you and you firmly place him on a high pocket pair JJ-AA. You are certain you are behind.

The flop comes Ace high. Bet into him. He folds anything except Aces.

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Sooooo ... you lose the pot on all non A-high flops, and steal the pot on all A-high flops, except when he has AA? Sounds like a losing move to me.

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You also win massively on all Txx flops.

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So say you win the current pot with 75% of all flops with an A, and stack him basically every time you flop a set, do you have odds to call his reraise with 100BB stacks? say you rasied to 4BB and had to call 10-12BB more.

I really don't know, and don't know how to do the math. Yes, I suck.

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Bet two barrels at a 3 handed limped pot in second position with nothing when the flop is trashy.

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My favorite play is to open limp/re-raise from the SB.

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With or without a hand? if both, some frequencies, like how often you limp tt-aa?

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My favorite play is to open limp/re-raise from the SB.

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With or without a hand? if both, some frequencies, like how often you limp tt-aa?

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I always try to limp/re-raise TT+ against aggro BBs because they very very rarely give you credit for having a hand. Yes, I've had some fantastically funny hands like I complete AA, he raises to 4bb, I re-raise to 25bb (always make this a big one), he pushes for 150bb I call. His J3o loses. It's an awesome play cause no one ever believe's it's for real. And no I don't usually do it with trash. It's better just to raise if the guy is tight and fold if the guy is loose. The reason why this play is awesome is because no one ever gives it credit. So don't pull it with junk.

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I've been playing with this lately....

1) Raising PF with a mid-high pp (like 10s). After you, a tight player reraises you and you firmly place him on a high pocket pair JJ-AA. You are certain you are behind.

The flop comes Ace high. Bet into him. He folds anything except Aces.

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Sooooo ... you lose the pot on all non A-high flops, and steal the pot on all A-high flops, except when he has AA? Sounds like a losing move to me.

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You also win massively on all Txx flops.

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So say you win the current pot with 75% of all flops with an A, and stack him basically every time you flop a set, do you have odds to call his reraise with 100BB stacks? say you rasied to 4BB and had to call 10-12BB more.

I really don't know, and don't know how to do the math. Yes, I suck.

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Uh yeah. Set value alone justifies that call.

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Sooooo ... you lose the pot on all non A-high flops, and steal the pot on all A-high flops, except when he has AA? Sounds like a losing move to me.

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???? I'm calling primarily for set value. Its just another way to win the hand. ie- flop set OR bluff the ace.

I'm not folding all lower pairs everytime I know someone has a higher pocket pair and the stacks are deep. Are you?

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I don't play NL much, but I use this play in SH limit a lot and this can probably be applied easily to NL. I use this play if my continuation bets are not getting any respect. If I'm heads up or 3 way in late position and miss the flop I sometimes check behind and bet when a face card falls on the turn, gets a fold almost every time.

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I raise AK, get a call from a LAG who limped before me.

Flop is something like A J 6. He checks, I make my 'continuation bet'. He calls.

Turn goes check-check.

He bets big on the river, I insta-call and he flips over QJ thinking it was good the entire way. Or, he flips over air. They just never expect someone to check top pair on the turn.

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This play is GOLD. I use this all the time with great success. Also keeps you out of trouble with a 1 pair hand when he has you smoked and was trying for the c/r on the turn.

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If he has you smoked and is going for a c/r on the turn, how are you dodging trouble if you call his huge bet on the river?

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I raise AK, get a call from a LAG who limped before me.

Flop is something like A J 6. He checks, I make my 'continuation bet'. He calls.

Turn goes check-check.

He bets big on the river, I insta-call and he flips over QJ thinking it was good the entire way. Or, he flips over air. They just never expect someone to check top pair on the turn.

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This play is GOLD. I use this all the time with great success. Also keeps you out of trouble with a 1 pair hand when he has you smoked and was trying for the c/r on the turn.

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If he has you smoked and is going for a c/r on the turn, how are you dodging trouble if you call his huge bet on the river?

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Simple. It keeps the pot small. Now if his bet on the river is pot size it's not "huge". I'm not saying call a massive push.

Classic "lose the least when you're behind/win the most when you're ahead" concept.

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If I'm in a blind and am in the hand for any reason and the flop comes something like Q66,I love to check raise the flop if anybody bets when there are only one or two people in the hand with me.
/jaxz