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icetonez 12-30-2004 06:39 PM

Call this river bet?
 
Just an orbit or two through. No reads on SB. Also is this a preflop fold with only one caller so far?
PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $1.50.
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Hero calls, CO (poster) checks, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, Hero calls, CO folds.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: (6.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero ?.

akh911007 12-30-2004 06:41 PM

Re: Call this river bet?
 
Without a read, I would. You're getting 7-1 on your call. I think you're good that often against an unknown.

tipperdog 12-30-2004 06:57 PM

Re: Call this river bet?
 
Your pre-flop play is correct, IMO. The presence of the CO poster (yet to act) significantly increases the chances of a multiway pot.

On the river, call. Your turn play invites a river bluff or a bet from a lousy made hand, like a mid-pocket pair. As a general principle, when the turn is checked around and a not terribly scary river card is bet upfront, I'm calling with any semblance of a hand.

flawless_victory 12-30-2004 07:58 PM

Re: Call this river bet?
 
duh.

captZEEbo1 12-30-2004 08:03 PM

Re: Call this river bet?
 
I think you're behind in the hand VERY often. I think the sb was looking for a c/r on the turn. There's a REALLY good chance he has an A. The ONLY reasonable hand you're beating is KQ...

I probably would have bet the turn though. That might just be me and my over-agressiveness.

Rudbaeck 12-31-2004 01:51 PM

Re: Call this river bet?
 
I call here.

Betting the turn makes no sense at all, hero made a flawless free card play, and it's obvious to villain that this is what hero did. Villain will be bluffing or betting a worse hand like bottom paír here more than 1 in 7.

bisonbison 12-31-2004 01:53 PM

Re: Call this river bet?
 
If you call the river this hand will stink of excellent routineness.

joker122 12-31-2004 02:09 PM

Re: Call this river bet?
 
yes, and bet the turn.

bisonbison 12-31-2004 02:14 PM

Re: Call this river bet?
 
yes, and bet the turn.

SB raised preflop.

River2Pair 12-31-2004 02:16 PM

Re: Call this river bet?
 
[ QUOTE ]
yes, and bet the turn.

[/ QUOTE ]

SB would have to fold a good part of the time for a turn bet to be effective (assuming we are behind on the flop), and the ace is a perfect scare card, and if we get check-raised we have plenty of outs to the flush. In this case, I probably wouldn't call a river bet, however, because we can pretty squarely put him on at least an ace. I like a bet here too.


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