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Karak567 12-23-2005 12:58 PM

How often do you guys continuation bet after a missed flop heads up?
 
Assume this is your first orbit and you have no reads for all hands. All hands take place at 6max.

Feel free to reply with more detail if the options don't suit you and feel free to flame me on why my poll is flawed.

EDIT - Also please discuss what you do if villain cold calls your bets in both situations and the turn blanks. I forgot to add that in poll form.

12-23-2005 02:48 PM

Re: How often do you guys continuation bet after a missed flop heads up?
 
Great post. Interesting to see some of the answers. I believe the correct answers barring no reads are always continuation bet and fold to both.

edge 12-23-2005 02:59 PM

Re: How often do you guys continuation bet after a missed flop heads u
 
I c-bet heads-up 100% of the time unless the villain is really bad.

12-23-2005 03:06 PM

Re: How often do you guys continuation bet after a missed flop heads u
 
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I c-bet heads-up 100% of the time unless the villain is really bad.

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In which case you'll do what?

Triumph36 12-23-2005 04:10 PM

Re: How often do you guys continuation bet after a missed flop heads u
 
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I c-bet heads-up 100% of the time unless the villain is really bad.

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In which case you'll do what?

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In which case he will check and try to spike an ace or king on the turn. If opponent's hand range is huge, and he's willing to call off a lot of chips with small pairs, checking seems like the right play.

ahnuld 12-23-2005 05:13 PM

Re: How often do you guys continuation bet after a missed flop heads u
 
I c-bet heads up about 80% of the time. Used to do it 100% but I found that checking occasionally lets me take the other cbet pots down alot more.

xorbie 12-23-2005 05:33 PM

Re: How often do you guys continuation bet after a missed flop heads u
 
I said 70%/90%. This is because I will often check it down with AK against button defenders who are douchebags and will let me do this.

Big_Jim 12-23-2005 09:24 PM

Re: How often do you guys continuation bet after a missed flop heads u
 
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I c-bet heads up about 80% of the time. Used to do it 100% but I found that checking occasionally lets me take the other cbet pots down alot more.

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thatpfunk 12-23-2005 10:15 PM

Re: How often do you guys continuation bet after a missed flop heads u
 
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I c-bet heads up about 80% of the time. Used to do it 100% but I found that checking occasionally lets me take the other cbet pots down alot more.

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I agree, except the spot specified by the OP should be very close to 100%. There are better spots to do the occasional check.

12-24-2005 12:07 AM

Re: How often do you guys continuation bet after a missed flop heads up?
 
Yeah, I voted 90%, because I will always do it unless villian has a went-to-showdown-when-seen-flop of like 45% or so (which means he's a huge station)

iceman5 12-24-2005 02:28 AM

Re: How often do you guys continuation bet after a missed flop heads up?
 
I actually keep track on a little tally sheet when I make a continuation bet with AK / AQ and I have nothing (no pair and no draw)

In the last 2 months, when I make this CB heads up with nothing, the guy folds 69% of the time. Of course there are some flops I dont bet, but I do bet about 90% of them and as long as they keep folding that much, I'll keep betting.

edge 12-24-2005 02:59 AM

Re: How often do you guys continuation bet after a missed flop heads u
 
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In which case you'll do what?

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If he's really bad in that he'll call down three streets with second pair, I just check/fold missed AK without odds to chase.

12-24-2005 10:54 PM

Re: How often do you guys continuation bet after a missed flop heads u
 
It seems that all of you who argue against c-betting 100% of the time are talking about the long run or some PT-stats on the opponent.

The OP asks about a specific isolated scenario: I still haven't seen any good reason not to bet 100% of the time...?

Chaostracize 12-24-2005 11:06 PM

Re: How often do you guys continuation bet after a missed flop heads u
 
Because you start getting cred like crazy and people start putting a bullseye on you, and that's not good unless you get hit by the deck at that exact moment, which in my experience, never freakin happens.

Edit: Didn't read the poll before I read your post. Oops! Yeah, I bet here 100% of the time since it's the first orbit.


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