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jt1 12-13-2005 11:26 PM

standard?
 
Villian is liberal flop peeler who is capable of illogical aggression but I only caught him at it once. One time he raised the turn on me and I had to fold my overs. In that hand I was the pfr, the board was all low cards and fairly well cordinated. In the hand in which he was caught, he donked the river into 2 players after missing his draw. His stats after 50 hands or so suggest loose passive.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP calls.

Flop: (7.33 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.66 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 5.66 BB

Fryguy 12-13-2005 11:29 PM

Re: standard?
 
I think calling this flop is terrible heads up. Calling to draw to a gutshot + 1 overcard is certainly wrong, and calling to fold to one more bet next round is certainly wrong. You need to either raise this flop and try to win it, or just fold the hand and wait for a better spot.

sfwusc 12-13-2005 11:30 PM

Re: standard?
 
I play it the same, but I am in a downswing. I am afraid it is bad play, but most hands that I lose...I wouldn't have played it differently knowing what they had. That doesn't help the bankroll though.

SWUSC

milesdyson 12-13-2005 11:31 PM

Re: standard?
 
how is calling this flop bad at all? folding is terrible getting 8.33:1 with 4 outs to the solid ass nuts.

this hand is perfect

jt1 12-13-2005 11:34 PM

Re: standard?
 
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I think calling this flop is terrible heads up. Calling to draw to a gutshot + 1 overcard is certainly wrong, and calling to fold to one more bet next round is certainly wrong. You need to either raise this flop and try to win it, or just fold the hand and wait for a better spot.


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If I hit my gutshot, I get 12 sb to the one I put in. I don't see how folding can be correct. Plus my two overs deserve to be counted as at least 2 outs.

I think folding is definitely the worst option.

Alobar 12-14-2005 03:40 AM

Re: standard?
 
I effing hate these hands...I play it the same way. If he wasnt such a donk I might raise the flop, but these anoying bastards love to redonk the turn all the time.

hemstock 12-14-2005 10:08 AM

Re: standard?
 
[ QUOTE ]
how is calling this flop bad at all? folding is terrible getting 8.33:1 with 4 outs to the solid ass nuts.

this hand is perfect

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12-14-2005 11:47 AM

Re: standard?
 
I agree. If this is the type of villian I am thinking of he will donk the turn after you raise the flop a lot of the time. Then, you are totally lost. This hand is played perfect.

jba 12-14-2005 12:54 PM

Re: standard?
 
nh.

folding the flop == weak

aargh57 12-14-2005 12:58 PM

Re: standard?
 
[ QUOTE ]
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I think calling this flop is terrible heads up. Calling to draw to a gutshot + 1 overcard is certainly wrong, and calling to fold to one more bet next round is certainly wrong. You need to either raise this flop and try to win it, or just fold the hand and wait for a better spot.


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If I hit my gutshot, I get 12 sb to the one I put in. I don't see how folding can be correct. Plus my two overs deserve to be counted as at least 2 outs.

I think folding is definitely the worst option.

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Nitpicking, you've only got 1 over but I think that you played it right.


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