Should you play low PP\'s early in $10/$20\'s?
 

I'm going to rehash this debate since I recently decided to swtich and not play low PP's to trap for trips early on anymore. To summarize, in the last debate, it was very close. Playing 22-66 may give you a slight +ChipEV, but it seems that it gives you a slight -$EV when you use ICM. The other issue is that having a big stack may give you an added advantage if you know how to use it.

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I'd like to hear opinions on this. I play them and was considering adding more than just small pairs axs, suited broadways, k9o(jk). If playing the small pairs is debatable axs probably isnt a good idea at all?

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i limp, but either i get raised and fold, or miss my set and fold. seems pointless.

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I limp small-mid pair from LP with other limpers in ahead of me. I like to pot to be a large family pot so I'm more likely to get paid of if I hit my set. Also, they are easy to get away from, miss your set and your done with the hand.

Axs, and higher suited connectors are different. You are going to flop a flush or a straight <2% of the time, other wise it could cost you a lot chasing draws. Also, if you make top pair with your hand, it can be very difficult to play.

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I always play them and will even call a 3-4X BB raise in level 1 with them sometimes.

The upside is huge, too huge to turn down.

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The upside is ~800. No way you're stacking opponents when you hit enough with 22-77 to make coldcalling 60 worth it.

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I play them in any position. If I get raised after I limped in, it depends on how many other callers there are. At these limits you can have 4 people seeing a flop when it's raised 3-5x the bb in level 1 and 2. This is screaming implied odds if you hit your set.

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Won't usually cold call 60 but if 5 people in front on me call for 60, I am calling also if in LP.

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None of this is really helping. I was agreeing with most of you. But the point of this was for you to look at your stats and see if this play is actually making you money. My guess is that if you have enough stats, you'll see it isn't helping you much, if at all.

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The answer is clearly yes, its +EV to play pocker pairs early on.
Why? because u can stack your oponents..or even if u dont stack them u win lots of chips.
For instance:
level 2: u limp , 4 ppl see the flop.
U see the flop, u hit ure set, u bet 90 u get 2 callers. U fire again at the turn and they fold, guess what u won 270 chips. Trust me even if u dont stack an oponent with your set you will still win some chips.

Pesky sets is another topic altogether( like with a flush on the board)..but my chips are usually in anyway on a pesky flop( fh odds If im accidentally behind).