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Manque 09-02-2005 03:54 PM

AK Should I have bet the turn
 
$22

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

UTG+2 (t225)
MP1 (t822)
MP2 (t1490)
MP3 (t657)
CO (t1414)
Button (t610)
SB (t542)
BB (t610)
Hero (t760)
UTG+1 (t870)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t60</font>, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, Button calls t60, SB calls t50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t195) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB folds, Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t195) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t125</font>, Button calls t125.

River: (t445) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t425 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t870

I don't like the way I played this, but maybe that's b/c it didn't work, so I'm interested in what should have been done differently and why.

Thank you

09-02-2005 04:12 PM

Re: AK Should I have bet the turn
 
You really needed to bet the flop and represent an over pair.

durron597 09-02-2005 04:19 PM

Re: AK Should I have bet the turn
 
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You really needed to bet the flop and represent an over pair.

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valejo 09-02-2005 04:20 PM

Re: AK Should I have bet the turn
 
I don't like your line either. Maybe you should bet out the flop for 50-75 and fold to a raise. Without a read, I'd check-fold the turn if he calls my flop bet. I know this is weak, but you're out of position and early in the tournament--not a good time to get aggressive for a tiny pot. Position really rules in spots like this one.

Manque 09-02-2005 04:30 PM

Re: AK Should I have bet the turn
 
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You really needed to bet the flop and represent an over pair.

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I would have done that if I was last to act, but I don't usually bet a flop I missed with a player to act behind me. At the $22's people will call a flop like that not even thinking about an overpair.

Since I raised pf, I was thinking that I could represent holding a queen

Manque 09-02-2005 04:32 PM

Re: AK Should I have bet the turn
 
That's what I was missing. It's just not the right time to get aggressive for that pot.

Thanks

valejo 09-02-2005 04:41 PM

Re: AK Should I have bet the turn
 
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That's what I was missing. It's just not the right time to get aggressive for that pot.

Thanks

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Right. I was thinking about this hand a little more. If you follow my line on the flop, get called, and the turn is an uncoordinated ten or lower you can take another pot-sized shot, but fold to a reraise. Many villians at this level will chase an AT+, KT+, or QJ for a flop bet but let it go on the turn. It's all about giving them an easy way to fold and save face.

Also, because you built a pot there's a better reason for trying for it on the turn.

Manque 09-02-2005 04:51 PM

Re: AK Should I have bet the turn
 
That's a much better line. I shall use it in the future.


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