Re: Playalong JJ
 

Huh? I did, like 3 times. I see 3 active players and 5 folders. I couldn't give a sh!t if it's 14 handed, I was just breaking your balls.

Re: Playalong JJ
 

The fact that it's 8 handed changes things a fair bit I just assumed it was SH, I probably still think raising is good, but I think BB's call could be slightly more rational hand here 8handed so waiting for the turn could be better.

Re: Playalong JJ
 

Sometimes I raise flop sometimes wait for the turn, I raised the flop here because I thought I might get BB to fold overs and I wanted to find out where I was at vs UTG now rather than the turn.

Party Poker 20/40 Hold'em (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (10.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ???

At this point UTG has $54 left. Given that, should I be popping the turn to try to get rid of BB?

Re: Playalong JJ
 

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Huh? I did, like 3 times. I see 3 active players and 5 folders. I couldn't give a sh!t if it's 14 handed, I was just breaking your balls.

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yeah I know, I was just pointing out that I mentioned that it was 8 handed in white in the OP [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Re: Playalong JJ
 

Ohhhhhh, now I feel dumb.

Don't use white. It sucks cause you can't see it.

Re: Playalong JJ
 

Given that flop action, you should just call on the turn now. BB's outs aren't that threatening when you're most likely losing to UTG's hand. Invite the BB in for a single bet and play the hand cheaply. UTG had enough money at the start of the hand where it looks like he's not overplaying just to go all in.

Re: Playalong JJ
 

Well no one seems too interested in the turn, but I popped it and surprisingly BB insta called and UTG mucked. On to the river.

Party Poker 20/40 Hold'em (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (10.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, UTG folds.

River: (15.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero ??

Re: Playalong JJ
 

Looks like an easy check, but it depends a little bit on BB of course.

Re: Playalong JJ
 

this seems to me like the easiest check in the world. i am very interested in hearing why it might not be. maybe some think it should be "easy" to fold to a c/r, but I don't like putting myself in the position of having to make the decision for one more bet in a 17bb pot, especially when there really arent many hands he can just call with that i beat.

Re: Playalong JJ
 

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Well no one seems too interested in the turn, but I popped it and surprisingly BB insta called and UTG mucked. On to the river.

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I get to wake up to this? UTG folded??? F'in weird. Poker players are strange sometimes.

BB could very easily be playing a passive QQ-AA or looking to c/r a completed flush. I'd check behind because those combos are greater than 99, TT and the remote A7 or A8. Bet/folding into a pot this size would be insane. Bet/calling is OK, but not as good as checking behind IMO.