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NobodysFreak 12-17-2005 07:26 PM

Re: Scientists Find A DNA Change That Accounts For White Skin
 
Well, aside from the dutch, I think the average height for a male in europe is 6 feet. I think its only about 5 feet 9 inches here in the states.

JackWhite 12-17-2005 07:34 PM

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If you are attributing things to "climate," you shouldn't attribute them to genes...

Sure, move a group of Inuits to East Africa, give them the same diet and have them live at the same altitude as the best distance runners and pretty soon you will have excellent inuit runners.

To say one group is "taller" is a big joke outside of sub-saharan Africa. A very big joke. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.


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Yes, I have no idea what I am talking about. West Africans aren't better sprinters then others. East Africans aren't better distance runners. Northern Europeans don't have better upper body strength. It is all nonsense.

In all seriousness. Anybody who is denying physical differences between different groups of human beings is ignoring a lot of evidence. Ok, forget "race" and let's say "geography." You know what is meant.

And you really believe that if you took some inuits and put them in a different climate and trained them, that you could produce some great sprinters? Have you ever seen a picture of an inuit? Evolution has given them short stocky legs. All the training in the world is not going to produce a great sprinter.

I am really amazed that there are educated people who refuse to acknowledge these physical differences. A journalist wrote a book a few years ago called "Taboo" about this topic.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1586480...ce&n=283155

InchoateHand 12-17-2005 07:34 PM

Re: Scientists Find A DNA Change That Accounts For White Skin
 
Yeah, thats what I mean. We are shrinking. Fifty years ago we were the tallest in the world. Makes the "social health" theory kind of appealing.

Olof 12-17-2005 07:57 PM

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Yup, they do. We did fifty years ago. We have been, proportionately, shrinking in the United States.

Increasing research suggests that height corresponds not simply to "diet" or "environment," but also to the nebulous concept of "social health."


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Couldn't this be explained by demographical changes to at least some degree? Asian and Latin American immigrants are hardly increasing the average height.

InchoateHand 12-17-2005 08:00 PM

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"Couldn't this be explained by demographical changes to at least some degree? Asian and Latin American immigrants are hardly increasing the average height. "

Nope. So called "white people," relative to "white people" elsewhere in the world are shrinking if they live in the United States.

Bez 12-17-2005 08:51 PM

Re: Scientists Find A DNA Change That Accounts For White Skin
 
What gene makes black people like crappy R 'n' B music?

12-17-2005 09:23 PM

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What gene makes black people like crappy R 'n' B music?

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R 'n B = Rhythym and Blues?

IIRC, Rhythym and Blues was originated as "Black" music.

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InchoateHand 12-17-2005 09:26 PM

Re: Scientists Find A DNA Change That Accounts For White Skin
 
What gene is common to most speakers of English that makes them entirely unable to spell "rhythm?"

ACPlayer 12-17-2005 09:30 PM

Re: Scientists Find A DNA Change That Accounts For White Skin
 
Does this mean that a "pure" white couple can fertilize an egg have a black gene spliced in and produce a black skinned baby? And of course, said baby would have Missy Elliots dance moves, Michael Jordan's ability to drive to the hoop, and Miles Davis' ability to juxtapose notes. Virually no chance of being a brilliant mathematician but an excellent chance of dying by lethal injection .

InchoateHand 12-17-2005 09:32 PM

Re: Scientists Find A DNA Change That Accounts For White Skin
 
Exactly ACPlayer,

Thank you for fleshing out the exciting implications of this entirely stale biology story!

Don't tell our resident neo-eugenicists though, they might get ideas.


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