Turn play when overcard hits
 

This hand generated a fair bit of discussion in HUSH. I'm the villan (BB) and I have Q9 (no club). What's the right play on the turn?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with ___:.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Re: Turn play when overcard hits
 

I would raise and check behind the river. You only miss value on the river from worse queens or a ten, and this way you charge him with clubs, TJ, etc...

Re: Turn play when overcard hits
 

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I would raise and check behind the river. You only miss value on the river from worse queens or a ten, and this way you charge him with clubs, TJ, etc...

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Hock is OOP.

Rob

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I would raise and check behind the river. You only miss value on the river from worse queens or a ten, and this way you charge him with clubs, TJ, etc...

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BB has Q9, "hero" is button and his cards are unknown. I think Hock is asking what BB should do.

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I would raise and check behind the river. You only miss value on the river from worse queens or a ten, and this way you charge him with clubs, TJ, etc...


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BB has Q9, "hero" is button and his cards are unknown. I think Hock is asking what BB should do.

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Right. Sorry for the confusion.

Re: Turn play when overcard hits
 

bet and call a raise seems to be the obvious line from first glance for me.

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bet w/ the intention of calling a raise if it comes. reevaluate on the river based on the opponent.

Re: Turn play when overcard hits
 

Nobody thinks there's merit to the BB check/calling the turn?

Re: Turn play when overcard hits
 

you could check raise the turn to get information as to whether the K helped him or if he's still on a draw.. if he misses the club draw the check raise may earn you a free showdown on the river.

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Nobody thinks there's merit to the BB check/calling the turn?

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i think this line is second best behind bet/calling. betting is better b/c a) you likely still have the best hand, so it is for value, and b) he could easily have a hand w/ a lot of outs against you, and so you want to charge him to draw.