Re: Fold bottom set on the turn?
 

Thanks, but my question was not about the flop play, my question was about the turn, in particular, to call all-in or muck.

Re: Fold bottom set on the turn?
 

It looks like your screwed. In the absence of any other info about the villain I would like to think that I could make this fold. In the heat of battle I probably call.

Re: Fold bottom set on the turn?
 

it is the tendency of 2+2er's to go back to the point they prefer and say why did you play the black queens in the first place every one knows only the red ones win.

so on the turn i think you are looking at the nuts. if your man likes to slow play two pair or middle/bottom set or the game has been loose aggressive so that he might have limped in with QQ. basically he is either getting out of line or he has you in bad shape drawing to 10 outs or much less. the board doesnt seem like one to slowplay anything except QQ. micro bets from the fish muddy the water a bit....i think i would find a fold here. yup i think its the nuts. i hope he screwed up the flop and you snapped 78, AA, or KK to pieces though. good hand to post
jason

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I used my entire clock and finally determined I probably was up against an overset or the nuts, so I mucked. Against another player (i.e. a maniac) I would have called, but based on the information I had, I had to assume this player was reasonable, so a fold was in order.

Re: Fold bottom set on the turn?
 

I agree w/ others that villain's push smells an awful lot like a straight trying to shut out flush draws/sets/two pair hands looking to improve on the river . . . Fold, me thinks.

Re: Fold bottom set on the turn?
 

Muck that trash.