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chisness 12-23-2005 05:34 PM

Who\'s going to switch to Stars because of the VIP program?
 
It seems comparable to RB on PP, maybe even better for very big players since you get advantages for playing more. For big players it looks like they'll literally buy you whatever you want for a fair amount of VPPs.

I'm not sure right now, but I did a sample of 20 or so Stars SNGs just to see how they were. The players seem a lot looser. It's harder to play hands early cause blinds escalate so fast. It's also annoying to not be able to gauge how many hands remain in a blind level since they're timed. The support/software at Stars is clearly a lot better, but only being able to register for one SNG at a time can be a pain.

splashpot 12-23-2005 05:37 PM

Re: Who\'s going to switch to Stars because of the VIP program?
 
It obvioiusly depends on how good of a value the FPPs become. I've played a bunch at Stars and I can win there too. I've grown to like the Party structure, but if the deal is good enough at Stars, I'll make the switch.

12-23-2005 05:43 PM

Re: Who\'s going to switch to Stars because of the VIP program?
 
I think that an FPP works out to be worth about 1.6 cents. At the bronze level this is 8% rakeback when playing SnGs. You need to get to the SuperNova level which gives 3.5x FPPs (28%) in order to get on par with Party Poker rakeback. Being able to buy stuff with FPPs is nifty, but just getting the cash is obviously better because you can use it on whatever you want.

chisness 12-23-2005 06:00 PM

Re: Who\'s going to switch to Stars because of the VIP program?
 
splash: The program has been launched, see http://www.pokerstars.com/vip/main.html for details.

btape: It looks like they will get you whatever you want if you're a Supernova member.

[ QUOTE ]
As the Rolling Stones said, "You can't always get what you want." Or can you? As a Supernova, you're not limited to just the array of items that you see on the store shelf. If there is something special you're looking for, anything in the range of approximately $3000 and up, just let us know and we'll personally see what can be done to make it happen!

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I imagine this could be used for anything from jewelry to a car. Yes, cash is better, but if you also consider the freerolls and better software it might be worth it.

Hendricks433 12-23-2005 06:07 PM

Re: Who\'s going to switch to Stars because of the VIP program?
 
WTF! You can buy a Porche! Man only if I made millions of FPP's a year.

johnnybeef 12-23-2005 06:09 PM

Re: Who\'s going to switch to Stars because of the VIP program?
 
stars sngs are the nuts. the deeper stacks are a huge advantage for me.

splashpot 12-23-2005 06:12 PM

Re: Who\'s going to switch to Stars because of the VIP program?
 
Oh interesting. I didn't know it was launched. Looks like you can buy some pretty cool stuff. Even if you don't just go for the big tourny entries. I'll have to look at this close later. It would only take 400 $60 turbos in Jan to reach Platinum status. And only 160 tournies each month after Jan due to the 150% FFP bonus.

byronkincaid 12-23-2005 06:21 PM

Re: Who\'s going to switch to Stars because of the VIP program?
 
No you need to play 400 every month, bonus FPP's do not count as VPP's

splashpot 12-23-2005 06:24 PM

Re: Who\'s going to switch to Stars because of the VIP program?
 
Oh ic....that makes it way worse. But for buying stuff, those bonus FFPs still count, right?

ClockWyze 12-23-2005 06:29 PM

Re: Who\'s going to switch to Stars because of the VIP program?
 
wow this is tempting..

compared to party's VIP program this month..

a big kick in the bean bag.

Stars actually seems to care

ClockWyze 12-23-2005 06:33 PM

Re: Who\'s going to switch to Stars because of the VIP program?
 
I just deposited in stars - see you at the tables.

Bill Poker 12-23-2005 06:36 PM

Re: Who\'s going to switch to Stars because of the VIP program?
 
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WTF! You can buy a Porche! Man only if I made millions of FPP's a year.

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you only need to play 120,000 55+5 turbo SNGs!:p [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

splashpot 12-23-2005 06:37 PM

Re: Who\'s going to switch to Stars because of the VIP program?
 
If I play 110 55s everyday for the next year, I could get the porche. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Hendricks433 12-23-2005 06:37 PM

Re: Who\'s going to switch to Stars because of the VIP program?
 
Dude thats NOTHING! Do that in my sleep [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

splashpot 12-23-2005 06:38 PM

Re: Who\'s going to switch to Stars because of the VIP program?
 
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WTF! You can buy a Porche! Man only if I made millions of FPP's a year.

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you only need to play 24,000 55+5 turbo SNGs!:p [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Isn't it 48,000?

Unarmed 12-23-2005 06:48 PM

Re: Who\'s going to switch to Stars because of the VIP program?
 
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stars sngs are the nuts. the deeper stacks give me way more opportunity to donk off my stack on retarded bluffs and ill advised resteals.

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FYP [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Bill Poker 12-23-2005 06:50 PM

Re: Who\'s going to switch to Stars because of the VIP program?
 
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WTF! You can buy a Porche! Man only if I made millions of FPP's a year.

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you only need to play 24,000 55+5 turbo SNGs!:p [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Isn't it 48,000?

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its actually 34,000 $55+5, if you are Supernova VIP:
3000000/(25*3.25)

splashpot 12-23-2005 06:56 PM

Re: Who\'s going to switch to Stars because of the VIP program?
 
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WTF! You can buy a Porche! Man only if I made millions of FPP's a year.

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you only need to play 24,000 55+5 turbo SNGs!:p [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Isn't it 48,000?

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its actually 34,000 $55+5, if you are Supernova VIP:
3000000/(25*3.25)

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No. It's actually 35127 games. You don't hit supernova until the first 100,000 points.

400 sngs at 25 points per game for your first 10,000 FPPs.
1584 sngs at 62.5 points per game for your next 99,000 FPPs.
Then you hit Supernova.
33143 sngs at 87.5 points per game for the next 2,900,000 FPPs.

Bill Poker 12-23-2005 06:59 PM

Re: Who\'s going to switch to Stars because of the VIP program?
 
[ QUOTE ]
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WTF! You can buy a Porche! Man only if I made millions of FPP's a year.

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you only need to play 24,000 55+5 turbo SNGs!:p [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Isn't it 48,000?

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its actually 34,000 $55+5, if you are Supernova VIP:
3000000/(25*3.25)

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No. It's actually 35127 games. You don't hit supernova until the first 100,000 points.

400 sngs at 25 points per game for your first 10,000 FPPs.
1584 sngs at 62.5 points per game for your next 99,000 FPPs.
Then you hit Supernova.
33143 sngs at 87.5 points per game for the next 2,900,000 FPPs.

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ok [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

For raptor, 20-tabling and 12 hours a day, it will only take him 6 months, oh if he 20 tables $200 or 500, maybe he can do it in a month!

runner4life7 12-23-2005 07:01 PM

Re: Who\'s going to switch to Stars because of the VIP program?
 
at first i was like, i will never get that many points for the WSOP stuff, but playing the 60s that seems more than doable.

curtains 12-23-2005 07:19 PM

Re: Who\'s going to switch to Stars because of the VIP program?
 
whoa I can win a porsch if I play how many 200s/500s?? Someone tell me plz.

Bill Poker 12-23-2005 07:30 PM

Re: Who\'s going to switch to Stars because of the VIP program?
 
for 500, vig=35, you need play about
3000000/(35*5*3.25) = 5200

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whoa I can win a porsch if I play how many 200s/500s?? Someone tell me plz.

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curtains 12-23-2005 07:32 PM

Re: Who\'s going to switch to Stars because of the VIP program?
 
holy crap thats way too many.

Newt_Buggs 12-23-2005 07:32 PM

Re: Who\'s going to switch to Stars because of the VIP program?
 
It seems doubtful that it will have this much impact, but perhaps this will get enough volume in the higher stakes to make it possible to 8 table $200 games. Maybe it has changed, but last time I checked party pretty much had a monopoly on multitabeling big games because no other site had big games run often enough.

splashpot 12-23-2005 07:34 PM

Re: Who\'s going to switch to Stars because of the VIP program?
 
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whoa I can win a porsch if I play how many 200s/500s?? Someone tell me plz.

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12062 $210+15s
6031 $525+30s

Newt_Buggs 12-23-2005 07:51 PM

Re: Who\'s going to switch to Stars because of the VIP program?
 
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whoa I can win a porsch if I play how many 200s/500s?? Someone tell me plz.

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Playing on party and buying one with your rakeback would prob be much more +EV.


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