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aggie 12-19-2005 02:59 AM

Strong hand facing river overbet
 
Villian seems fairly loose but decent. He's 29/13 after 221 hand. We played a very similar hand to the one below where i checked behind on the turn with a strong hand, he overbet the river and i paid him off (he had a set)....That's all i know about him though.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) converter

BB ($400)
UTG ($170.10)
MP ($305.30)
CO ($403.95)
Hero ($400)
SB ($342.30)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $4, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $4, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $24</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $20, UTG folds, CO folds.

Flop: ($58) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $40</font>, BB calls $40.

Turn: ($138) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($138) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $160</font>

Hero? Comments on all streets welcome.

aggie 12-19-2005 03:36 AM

Re: Strong hand facing river overbet
 
Bump

Okay, since i haven't gotten a response yet let me post a couple thoughts. With no read i would quickly call this river. The wrinkle here is that i have noticed villian overbet in a similar situation and he had the goods. So i have a read based on 1 hand. Is that enough to allow me to laydown this hand?

Isura 12-19-2005 04:25 AM

Re: Strong hand facing river overbet
 
If he's thinking about the game, I would be more inclined to call this time. Unless he is thinking on the 3rd level, and figures that you will call again.

BobboFitos 12-19-2005 04:31 AM

Re: Strong hand facing river overbet
 
he cant have "the" goods since you have Ac

btw, aggie, you bumped your post after 30 mins. just thought you should know [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

aggie 12-19-2005 04:45 AM

Re: Strong hand facing river overbet
 
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btw, aggie, you bumped your post after 30 mins. just thought you should know

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Please get it right...It was closer to 40 minutes

yvesaint 12-19-2005 04:46 AM

Re: Strong hand facing river overbet
 
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he cant have "the" goods since you have Ac

btw, aggie, you bumped your post after 30 mins. just thought you should know [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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the goods can mean different things to different opponents ....in this case, it can definitely mean a set. hero checked behind the turn when the flush card came, almost a sure sign of weakness to almost any villain.

BobboFitos 12-19-2005 04:54 AM

Re: Strong hand facing river overbet
 
[ QUOTE ]
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he cant have "the" goods since you have Ac

btw, aggie, you bumped your post after 30 mins. just thought you should know [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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the goods can mean different things to different opponents ....in this case, it can definitely mean a set. hero checked behind the turn when the flush card came, almost a sure sign of weakness to almost any villain.

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Yes, but why bomb the river w/ a good hand if you sense weakness?

Anyway, the overbet is disconcerting, but I would pay off anyway. its worth noting what he has in the future, too.

I think pf-&gt;river were played very well too

Lucky 12-19-2005 05:14 AM

Re: Strong hand facing river overbet
 
fold. If he has the Q, hes not betting like that. If he was If he has 99 or something, same deal. Only thing he could have been on is 4d5d type hand, missed his straight. But if y he's on that, he probably bets turn if hes going to bluff.

diconoclastx 12-19-2005 05:30 AM

Re: Strong hand facing river overbet
 
push

wtfsvi 12-19-2005 06:16 AM

Re: Strong hand facing river overbet
 
I'd fold. As stated earlier, the straight draw is the only hand you beat.


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