Re: A crazy holiday poker story and an ethical question (low content)
 

Any professional poker player who attempts to justify the morality of living off the suffering of others probably thinks along these lines:

When money enters the casino gambling world, that is when cash is exchanged for casino chips and wagered, it becomes a entity separate from personal assets. As long as it remains in play, it is not yours or anyone else's, it is merely a subject of the game. The only forces that can act on wagered money are the rules of the game and the luck of the draw. Because of the inequity of variance and the ability to manipulate the odds with betting, these forces are not equal for everyone, but they are fair.

So when everyone buys in at the table, they are implicitly agreeing to subject their money to this system, accepting whatever consequences may come. Nothing that happens within the game, inside the gambling forum is "wrong", no matter how unfair it may seem, or how much it seems to favor one person over another. If any wrong was done, it was in putting money at risk to begin with.

I don't know how many people agree with that, but if you do, I don't think you can in good conscience accept a "refund" after a bad beat. For the same reason that I won't take blame or responsibility for outdrawing someone, I won't look for sympathy or repayment after being bad beat myself.

You could say "hey, it's $1200, whatever reason he has for giving it to me is none of my business." but I think that is a copout. Let's say it's a live game, and you are both regulars. After you accept his "gift", could you look him in the eye next time you break him with a 2-outer, knowing full well that you aren't going to reciprocate his generosity?

For the sake of consistancy, I don't think you should keep this money.

Re: A crazy holiday poker story and an ethical question (low content)
 

donate the entire $1200 to the red cross or some equally worthy charity as a GIFT in his name, and find out his email address and they will send him a gift receipt/notice

then write it off on taxes :-)

Re: A crazy holiday poker story and an ethical question (low content)
 

No. Losing players actually like to keep the sharks alive. People who donk off money in poker have too much money for their own good.

If the guy won the money, then gave it back, then lost it again, I think that means he just likes playing poker.

Re: A crazy holiday poker story and an ethical question (low content)
 

i win btw

Re: A crazy holiday poker story and an ethical question (low content)
 

Send it back, jeez dude.

This one is easy. It's not like he stole the $1200 from you and returned it, he won it "fair and square" (if you call bad beats fair. lol)

I'd send it to him so that at least he can continue to play poker. Send it back to him, but don't feel bad about beating him out of his money down the road, if it comes to that.

If you are playing 10/20 then I'm assuming $1200 isn't a huge deal of coin for you. Send it back but don't tell the room. Just return it.

Re: A crazy holiday poker story and an ethical question (low content)
 

keep it. he's just saving himself a few hours of poker grind by transfering straight away.

Re: A crazy holiday poker story and an ethical question (low content)
 

Um, you send it back immediately. like, no doubt about it.

On a related note, I saw a guy last night pull money out of his pocket in an uncapped 5/10 game and give it to a guy who beat him out of a big pot and had more money on the table than he did. It was unbelievable. They were strangers to one another too.

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On a related note, I saw a guy last night pull money out of his pocket in an uncapped 5/10 game and give it to a guy who beat him out of a big pot and had more money on the table than he did. It was unbelievable. They were strangers to one another too.

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they must be christian

Re: A crazy holiday poker story and an ethical question (low content)
 

I keep it no question. I try not to think about where the money comes from, because I know I won't like the answer. I try to remain blissfully ignorant and treat poker as a video game.

Re: A crazy holiday poker story and an ethical question (low content)
 

I don't know if you wrote this or not, but it's very well written.