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WalleyeJason 01-12-2004 12:24 PM

Typical Party AK hand (picture included)
 
Ok, take a look at the picture, I raised to $10 Pre flop...What dose this mean? and what would you do?

http://www.northwestwalleye.com/poker/ak1.gif





SpaceAce 01-12-2004 12:35 PM

Re: Typical Party AK hand (picture included)
 
Without knowing anything at all about the villain, it sure looks like he thinks he can beat top pair. It also looks like he doesn't want any callers. If you're going to go forward with this hand, it seems that raising him all-in is the way to go. If he does have you beat, you're going to end up paying him off, anyway, because what could hit on the turn that would allow you to get away from the hand? If he doesn't have you beat, maybe you take the pot right there.

Edit: I guess you could get away from a club or straight card but I think it would be a bit of a stretch to put him on a draw, here, unless he has Ac Xc.

SpaceAce

theBruiser500 01-12-2004 12:43 PM

Re: Typical Party AK hand (picture included)
 
People have made this move on me a few times and each time they've shown me something like top pair weak kicker, or second pair... I'm not sure why they make the move there, but in my experience, that's what people have. I've never seen anyone do this with a strong hand like trips, straight, two pair, so I wouldn't be afraid of that - if they did have something like that, why not check raise, or if they're baiting you, why not bet smaller?. If I were you, I'd push in.

By the way, I like the screen shot. Why cross out the names though?

danny

WalleyeJason 01-12-2004 12:46 PM

Re: Typical Party AK hand (picture included)
 
Hey SpaceAce,

These were my thoughts exactly!!!

Villian just sat down, and I have no info on him.

Whats your play here...Allin or fold?


WJ

WalleyeJason 01-12-2004 12:50 PM

Re: Typical Party AK hand (picture included)
 
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By the way, I like the screen shot. Why cross out the names though?


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Well, I thought about it and I feel that I'd hate to create enemys with my fishys at Party, if some of them happen to swim here at 2+2. Just a precaution, not to get any death threats or the like:)

WJ

theBruiser500 01-12-2004 01:17 PM

Re: Typical Party AK hand (picture included)
 
Haha, alright. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

danny

gavrilo 01-12-2004 01:22 PM

Re: Typical Party AK hand (picture included)
 
Without knowing the person, I think this is an easy fold.
He's not overbetting the pot by all that much, looks to me like he's trying to protect his hand. He could have a multitude of hands here, QJ, 9T, K9, KT, a set, besides that you have a person to act after you who has a big stack.
Maybe this seems a bit weak, but unless this person is a complete maniac, I would fold.

theBruiser500 01-12-2004 02:03 PM

Re: Typical Party AK hand (picture included)
 
QJ, a set? Maybe in a live game where he plays with the same people regularly and deception is an issue, but on partypoker? I have a really hard time believing that he'd the nuts or close to the nuts like that.

danny

gavrilo 01-12-2004 03:04 PM

Re: Typical Party AK hand (picture included)
 
This guy doesn't have to have the nuts to beat AK,
like I said above, KT beats him, 9T beats him, there are so many hands that he's losing to. Not to mention he has a player yet to act after him. I just can't imagine calling here and calling an all-in on the turn or putting him all-in is a +EV play especially without knowing anything about the player.

X-Calibre 01-12-2004 05:59 PM

Re: Typical Party AK hand (picture included)
 
2 points here.

1) might be able to help more if you tell us what the pre flop action was like, maybe then we can get more of a sense of what his hand is.

2) What is your resolution set at!


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