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RustyCJ 12-17-2005 07:03 PM

AQs UTG, makes TP on a board with draws
 
UTG+1 is 22/0/.8 after 9 hands (worthless)
CO is 52/8/1 after 80 hands

When CO raised the flop I decided I would just call, if the turn brought a *safe* card, my plan was to c/r the CO.

did I make a mistake not 3-betting the flop? I considered it but thought the turn c/r would be a better way to protect my hand.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: (9.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (8.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP1 folds, CO calls, Hero folds.

River: (10.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, CO calls.

Final Pot: 12.75 BB

NobodysFreak 12-17-2005 07:12 PM

Re: AQs UTG, makes TP on a board with draws
 
I think you played it fine. We might be ahead of the CO, but when UTG+1 donks the turn after a spade hits against the flop raiser, I think I'm finished here.

mxer7734 12-17-2005 08:29 PM

Re: AQs UTG, makes TP on a board with draws
 
3-bet the flop. No matter what you do you are not getting UTG+1 to fold his flush draw.

Gravy (Gravy Smoothie) 12-18-2005 01:32 AM

Re: AQs UTG, makes TP on a board with draws
 
3-bet the flop.

12-18-2005 02:04 AM

Re: AQs UTG, makes TP on a board with draws
 
Look at CO stats. Im not folding the turn.

NobodysFreak 12-18-2005 02:11 AM

Re: AQs UTG, makes TP on a board with draws
 
I don't think the CO is the one we have to worry about. UTG+1 was passive PF and on the flop. When he wakes up on the turn and bets into the flop raiser with a 3-flush on board, we should be concerned.

RustyCJ 12-18-2005 05:57 AM

Re: AQs UTG, makes TP on a board with draws
 
[ QUOTE ]
3-bet the flop.

[/ QUOTE ]

I didn't do this because 3-betting doesn't help me *that* much, the FD isn't going to fold. I feel good that I'm ahead of CO here. There are a TON of cards I don't want to see on the turn, any [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K,J,T,9,8,7,6,5 are all potentially bad.

If something like the 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] falls on the turn, it will probably get checked to the PF raiser, I c/r and face UTG+1 and MP1 with 2 big bets, now if they call I make more money when my hand is probably good and my equity went up. This just seems like the perfect situation to use the turn raise to protect my hand.

I thought this hand was quite vulnerable.

If I do 3-bet the flop, it's called down the line, how do I proceed on the turn when that spade falls? bet/fold then?

I'm eager to learn, please point out to me where/why my thinking is incorrect.

JackThree 12-18-2005 08:14 AM

Re: AQs UTG, makes TP on a board with draws
 
i probably donk the turn, pot is plenty big enough

the turn cards i'm worried about are Js, Ts, 9s. but i would still bet on those cards

12-18-2005 09:27 AM

Re: AQs UTG, makes TP on a board with draws
 
wtf was that a misclick??

trey the flop

lead turn and call down if raised

12-18-2005 09:28 AM

Re: AQs UTG, makes TP on a board with draws
 
btw the checkraise plan makes a bit of sense, but it shouldnt involve folding for 1BB if the wrong person bets.


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