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therockofgibraltar 10-11-2005 12:20 PM

I do this a lot (PP and overs)
 
No reads.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, MP calls.

Flop: (6 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, MP calls.

Turn: (4 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls.

River: (6 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 7 BB

spydog 10-11-2005 12:24 PM

Re: I do this a lot (PP and overs)
 
Perfect.

witeknite 10-11-2005 12:25 PM

Re: I do this a lot (PP and overs)
 
I think I c/f the turn. That board just sucks too bad imo.

WiteKnite

spydog 10-11-2005 12:29 PM

Re: I do this a lot (PP and overs)
 
[ QUOTE ]
I think I c/f the turn. That board just sucks too bad imo.

WiteKnite

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Hero has an OESD.

witeknite 10-11-2005 12:29 PM

Re: I do this a lot (PP and overs)
 
Dur, cards is fun.

WiteKnite

JohnnyHumongous 10-11-2005 12:31 PM

Re: I do this a lot (PP and overs)
 
[ QUOTE ]
Why bet the turn, Spydog?

WiteKnite

[/ QUOTE ]

because aggression wins pots

rory 10-11-2005 12:31 PM

Re: I do this a lot (PP and overs)
 
I think I call. There are 7 BB in the pot, so his hand only has to be good 14% of the time for a call to be correct. The limper could have any hand with a T in it, a club draw, he could have an Ace that he decided to peel on the flop and then caught a gutshot draw on the turn so decided to call one more. He hasn't raised you at any point in the hand, so it is less likely he has a Q or a K. I dunno I can think of a lot of hands I beat that might bet, so I call.

therockofgibraltar 10-11-2005 01:03 PM

Re: I do this a lot (PP and overs)
 
OK, how about this:
button is tight-passive 24/7.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, Button calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

should I fold here?

River: (15.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG folds.

Final Pot: 17.50 BB

Spicymoose 10-11-2005 03:07 PM

Re: I do this a lot (PP and overs)
 
[ QUOTE ]
OK, how about this:
button is tight-passive 24/7.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, Button calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

should I fold here?

River: (15.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG folds.

Final Pot: 17.50 BB

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Maybe you should, but you want to be pretty sure of your read. How many hands is your read over? Whats his post flop agression levels? Have you seen him bluf at all? If you are damn sure he is passive, I would fold (or at least I think you should fold, I don't know if I could follow through).

therockofgibraltar 10-11-2005 03:18 PM

Re: I do this a lot (PP and overs)
 
This is amazing! I just keep getting these pocket tens [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Let's keep analyzing them.

Opponents are loose pf an postfl. Passive postfl.
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls, BB calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls, BB calls.

River: (7.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls, BB calls.

Final Pot: 10.75 BB

HAND2:
villain is 61/29 pf. Not overly agg. postfl.
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP caps</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (11.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.25 BB


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