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Stinkybeaver 12-19-2005 06:34 PM

ATo Too much or just keep hittin that bet button
 
Ok Preflop raiser is decent rest is lags...

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Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, MP calls, SB calls $9.50 (All-In), Hero calls, UTG calls, MP calls.

Turn: (11.80 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, MP folds.

River: (13.80 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks.

Final Pot: 13.80 BB

Flop I go for a checkraise but it kind a backfires with all them calling players. I go for it anyways..??

River: Be kind, but yeah I'm a wuss.

toss 12-19-2005 06:37 PM

Re: ATo Too much or just keep hittin that bet button
 
Easy river value bet and fold to a raise. Worse tens and worse pairs will call. Sometimes even hands like A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

Flop checkraise attempt is fine if MP autobets the flop in position checked to him after raising preflop like so many players do.

12-19-2005 06:49 PM

Re: ATo Too much or just keep hittin that bet button
 
Flop c/r is a good idea since MP is going to autobet this flop like 98% of the time. I dont know about the c/3bet though, after SB calls 2 anyway. You might be ahead but your equity is slim- a safe turn might be better- I'm not sure about that. I think you have to bet the river, however with the large pot I think I pay off a raise- I think it's a missed straight or flush draw (or weaker ten) often enough getting 17:1.

jba 12-19-2005 07:30 PM

Re: ATo Too much or just keep hittin that bet button
 
you really missed a value bet on that river, he's got a lot of kt/qt/jt/t9/PP hands in his range that are going to call you.

12-19-2005 07:44 PM

Re: ATo Too much or just keep hittin that bet button
 
I think the river is bet/call. I don't like folding this huge pot, althought we have to beat SB aswell for a majority of it. I don't really think beating SB is a huge problem though.

True

bhudson 12-19-2005 10:17 PM

Re: ATo Too much or just keep hittin that bet button
 
Our equity is great here. It could easily be a draw that didn't get there, but a weaker T is almost as likely. If the UTG is aggressive enough PF, we would have heard more from him by the river with a hand that beats yours. I'd call a raise as well unless I have got a really, *really* good read on him.

LoaferGee12 12-19-2005 10:22 PM

Re: ATo Too much or just keep hittin that bet button
 
All checking that river does is allow him to check through with worse hands that may have paid you off, and bet hands that beat you.

12-20-2005 01:37 PM

Re: ATo Too much or just keep hittin that bet button
 
That's pretty funky flop action. I think you probably have the best hand here on the river and have to bet.

12-20-2005 02:03 PM

Re: ATo Too much or just keep hittin that bet button
 
TRUE.

"Free cards are food for river rats."

My personal quote.

Yads 12-20-2005 03:26 PM

Re: ATo Too much or just keep hittin that bet button
 
I'm folding this PF all day long unless decent guy has a huge range of hands he's isolating with.


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