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cbloom 12-30-2005 02:23 PM

I\'m weak - ace + flush draw
 
I'm weak part one. Villains are pretty average players. I'm getting great odds to call to the flush. When the J hits the river it looks to me like trips, so I'm gone. Do I need to check-raise the turn here? Their small bet looks weak for sure, but I thought I'd just take my good odds and just call.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed)
MP3 ($53.37)
CO ($109.35)
Button ($109.40)
Hero ($100.65)
BB ($80)
UTG ($159.70)
UTG+1 ($113.15)
MP1 ($121.96)
MP2 ($131.20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls $1, CO calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($5) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $4</font>, CO calls $4, Hero calls $4, BB folds, MP1 folds.

Turn: ($17) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $5</font>, CO calls $5, Hero calls $5.

River: ($32) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $15</font>, Hero folds, MP3 folds.

Final Pot: $47

12-30-2005 02:27 PM

Re: I\'m weak - ace + flush draw
 
Turn seems kind of weak, I would prefer a lead of the turn over a checkraise, but I think both are better than checking and calling. The way it is played you have to fold the river, if you were not beat on the turn you are now.

poboy 12-30-2005 02:33 PM

Re: I\'m weak - ace + flush draw
 
There really needs to be a raise in here somewhere, I wold probably do it on the flop but the turn isn't bad either. JMO

12-30-2005 10:53 PM

Re: I\'m weak - ace + flush draw
 
Flop looks fine

I'd probably lead out on the turn and see what happens... you have top pair and the nut flush draw. Given your check, this is obviously an easy call on the turn.

River: Sucky, but ya, I probably lay this down. Show more aggression before the river comes next time.

12-30-2005 10:56 PM

Re: I\'m weak - ace + flush draw
 
I prefer leading the flop, But checking can be ok

Given you check/called, I like the check/call on turn and check/fold on river

I check/call the turn planning to check/call unimproved on the river as long as it's not a J. If the turn gets checked through I lead any river

I don't see many advantages to leading turn over check/calling


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