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Stuey 06-25-2005 03:38 AM

66 from MP plus a greed hand
 
BB is 42 VP$IP 9 PFR 3.5 AG only 31 hands on him though but it is clear he is bad, worse than me maybe not. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

UTG+1 is 71 VP$IP 13 PFR .75 AG only 31 hands on him also but he is clearly worse.

I don't like the way I played this at all so point it out for me as I still haven't figured it out yet. Did I play worse than both these guys or only one??

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (14 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (11.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (17.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 26.50 BB

This happened the next hand and I thought I would include it I thought the 1 cent raise on the river was funny at the time.

Feel free to pick my play apart here also though as I often do things like this just for kicks. How bad was my play in these hands? I feel bad even posting them.

Villian here is the same guy in hand 1
Villian 71 VP$IP 13 PFR .75 AG only 31 hands on him

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls, BB folds.

River: (8.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls $0.01 (All-In).

Final Pot: 11.76 BB

brick 06-25-2005 04:23 AM

Re: 66 from MP plus a greed hand
 
You want those bets going in on the Turn.
If you're behind you still have a draw, and there are a lot more hand that you beat that will give you action.

I'm sure there are more reasons.

Cap the Turn.
Bet river. Call raise. (If the river is a brick.)

Bodhi 06-25-2005 04:37 AM

Re: 66 from MP plus a greed hand
 
In hand number 1 you missed a turn raise. Hand number 2 seems fine.

Stuey 06-25-2005 04:57 AM

Results
 
Hand 1

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Qs 7d (two pair, queens and sevens).
UTG+1 has 8h Qd (one pair, queens).
Hero has 6h 6c (three of a kind, sixes).
Outcome: Hero wins 26.50 BB. </font>

Hand 2

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
CO has 9c Th (one pair, tens).
Hero has Kd Ad (two pair, aces and kings).
Outcome: Hero wins 11.76 BB. </font>

@bsolute_luck 06-25-2005 08:18 AM

Re: 66 from MP plus a greed hand
 
Hand #2: what did you think he had on the turn that you only called, but beat on the river?

Dave G. 06-25-2005 08:45 AM

Re: 66 from MP plus a greed hand
 
[ QUOTE ]
Hand #2: what did you think he had on the turn that you only called, but beat on the river?

[/ QUOTE ]

Hero wanted his last $0.01. Meanie.

Nick C 06-25-2005 08:51 AM

Re: 66 from MP plus a greed hand
 
I think you should 3-bet the turn in Hand 1.

turaho 06-25-2005 10:55 AM

Re: 66 from MP plus a greed hand
 
Raise raise raise hand 1. On the turn, you're only behind QQ (unlikely given preflop action), 77 (unlikely given flop action), or 85 and 53 (and if your opponents are playing those hands, then congratulations on your table selection). They're not going to fold after showing so much aggression, so you're betting purely for value.

Hand 2 I think is standard against someone who's stacking off. A turn raise might fold him. I'd raise any non-heart river.


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