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valenzuela 12-13-2005 03:59 PM

My first ever $109..some hands.
 
Partypoker gave me back my $130 dollar they took from me on June or something, anyway I played an 109 and managed to make the money.( Im too lazy to edit all the hands sorry)

Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $680 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $855 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $790 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $2445 )
Seat 6: GoAhdSukOut ( $625 )
Seat 8: kram626 ( $1050 )
Seat 9: I_Changed ( $980 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $2575 )
Trny:18244910 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ 9c 9h ]
I_Changed folds.
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe is all-In [680]

Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $1355 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $855 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $1640 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $2045 )
Seat 9: I_Changed ( $1630 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $2475 )
Trny:18244910 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ 9h 6d ]
Champ4ever folds.
schmidbauer folds.
birdie413 raises [200].
I_Changed folds.
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe calls [100].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, Js, 5d ]
D_Maybe checks.
birdie413 bets [100].
D_Maybe folds.

Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $1105 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $705 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $1790 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $2145 )
Seat 9: I_Changed ( $1680 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $2575 )
Trny:18244910 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ Jh As ]
D_Maybe folds.

Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $1105 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $705 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $1790 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $1545 )
Seat 9: I_Changed ( $1630 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $3225 )
Trny:18244910 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ Qd Jc ]
Champ4ever folds.
schmidbauer raises [200].
birdie413 folds.
I_Changed calls [200].
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe calls [100].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, 9d, 8c ]
D_Maybe is all-In [905]

Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $1505 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $1585 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $1365 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $1880 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $3665 )
Trny:18244910 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ Td Kd ]
Champ4ever folds.
schmidbauer folds.
birdie413 raises [300].
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe calls [150].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4c, Tc, Ts ]
D_Maybe checks.
birdie413 bets [150].
D_Maybe is all-In [1205]

Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $1955 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $1435 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $1365 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $1655 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $3590 )
Trny:18244910 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ Jc Th ]
birdie413 folds.
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe is all-In [1955]

Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $2180 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $1585 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $840 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $1955 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $3440 )
Trny:18244910 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ 6c 8s ]
Champ4ever folds.
schmidbauer folds.
birdie413 raises [350].
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe calls [200].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, Td, Qc ]
D_Maybe checks.
birdie413 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6s ]
D_Maybe checks.
birdie413 checks.
** Dealing River ** [ Ac ]
D_Maybe checks.
birdie413 checks

Bill Poker 12-13-2005 04:03 PM

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 
huh?

junkmail3 12-13-2005 04:06 PM

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 
Looks pretty bad overall.

I'm too lazy to reply further.

kevkev60614 12-13-2005 04:07 PM

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 
I'm too la

jeffraider 12-13-2005 04:09 PM

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 
99 hand - Eew. I think raising to 150 has a lot more value here, as you get to play against a lot of hands you're killing that way.

96 - Fold preflop. You have too few chips, your hand sucks and you're oop postflop.

AJ - Close, any way I think, but I'd raise this to 300 as you're six-handed.

QJ - I'd check-raise all in here.

KT - Preflop is okay but on the flop I'd just call or make a smaller raise, you're not giving your guy a lot of chances to give you chips. Sure it doesn't look like you've got a T but he'll have to have something pretty strong to call here, where as he needs nothing to fire away again on the turn.

JT - Not bad because you've got both blinds outchipped.

68 - Fold preflop. You keep wanting to play big pots with no hand out of position!

Deuce2High 12-13-2005 04:09 PM

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 
Partypoker gave me back my $130 dollar they took from me on June or something, anyway I played an 109 and managed to make the money.( Im too lazy to edit all the hands sorry)

Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $680 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $855 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $790 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $2445 )
Seat 6: GoAhdSukOut ( $625 )
Seat 8: kram626 ( $1050 )
Seat 9: I_Changed ( $980 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $2575 )
Trny:18244910 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ 9c 9h ]
I_Changed folds.
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe is all-In [680]

Make a standard raise. No point in pushing here.

Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $1355 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $855 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $1640 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $2045 )
Seat 9: I_Changed ( $1630 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $2475 )
Trny:18244910 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ 9h 6d ]
Champ4ever folds.
schmidbauer folds.
birdie413 raises [200].
I_Changed folds.
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe calls [100].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, Js, 5d ]
D_Maybe checks.
birdie413 bets [100].
D_Maybe folds.

Very bad preflop call.

Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $1105 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $705 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $1790 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $2145 )
Seat 9: I_Changed ( $1680 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $2575 )
Trny:18244910 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ Jh As ]
D_Maybe folds.

Raise this hand. If people are calling alot of raises then pushing here is better than folding.

Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $1105 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $705 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $1790 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $1545 )
Seat 9: I_Changed ( $1630 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $3225 )
Trny:18244910 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ Qd Jc ]
Champ4ever folds.
schmidbauer raises [200].
birdie413 folds.
I_Changed calls [200].
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe calls [100].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, 9d, 8c ]
D_Maybe is all-In [905]

I fold this for 100 preflop.

Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $1505 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $1585 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $1365 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $1880 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $3665 )
Trny:18244910 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ Td Kd ]
Champ4ever folds.
schmidbauer folds.
birdie413 raises [300].
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe calls [150].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4c, Tc, Ts ]
D_Maybe checks.
birdie413 bets [150].
D_Maybe is all-In [1205]

If you must play this hand at least don't try to blow him off his after you flop huge.

Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $1955 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $1435 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $1365 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $1655 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $3590 )
Trny:18244910 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ Jc Th ]
birdie413 folds.
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe is all-In [1955]

It's close but I don't think I like it.

Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $2180 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $1585 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $840 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $1955 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $3440 )
Trny:18244910 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ 6c 8s ]
Champ4ever folds.
schmidbauer folds.
birdie413 raises [350].
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe calls [200].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, Td, Qc ]
D_Maybe checks.
birdie413 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6s ]
D_Maybe checks.
birdie413 checks.
** Dealing River ** [ Ac ]
D_Maybe checks.
birdie413 checks

Why would you call this?

Overall I think your game needs a lot of work. And I do not think you will make money at the $109s playing like this. Not everything I said may be spot on but I do know for sure that you need to stop calling raises out of the big blind with bad hands. You need to learn how to extract more value out of your monsters. And you need to brush up on your ICM a bit. Best of luck.

downtown 12-13-2005 04:12 PM

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 
Did you type in the chat box, "I will not lay down my BB to a raise, but I will let you have the pot for even a min-bet after I have to play OOP for the rest of the hand." ???

12-13-2005 04:13 PM

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 
1. Pushing is okay - if you don't want to have a flop for t150.
2. horrible. There is no reason to get cute because of the increased buyin.
3. I'd push 6 handed
4. Guess it's okay. I don't like calling off 100 here though
5. I might just call the flop. I don't care about the flushdraw
6. Don't like it
7. Horrible

valenzuela 12-13-2005 04:32 PM

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 
Ok after reading the comments here is my reply.

I think my 99 push is "ok", Im not very good at playing the flop anyway.
The 96 hand isnt entirely horrible I think my odds arent that bad, but I guess that a fold is better.
The AJo hand is kinda tricky, I just dont like pushing into 5 oponents with 11x the BB. I think its a close one, I just feel unconfortable betting 300.
I will defend my QJo hand, I think I played it just fine. I have enough odds to see a flop. After I hit I simply cant manage to give a free card, betting 300 and getting called doesnt excite me so I simply prefer to push.
The KT hand shows my inexperience in this big buy-in thing, I should have called instead of pushing, however I think a preflop call is fine and so is the check considering the 96 hand.
I thought the JT hand over and over( when I was playing) and simply pushed hoping the other guys would fold almost everything since I had them outchipped. I think its close.
The 86 hand was a play I made because I was all excited about the KT hand. Another inexperienced play.

Overall I made a lot of mistakes, I also didnt post an horrible hand I played early on. I agree I cant beat this thing, but I will keep trying [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

BDarch 12-13-2005 04:36 PM

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 
[ QUOTE ]

I think my 99 push is "ok", Im not very good at playing the flop anyway.

The AJo hand is kinda tricky, I just dont like pushing into 5 oponents with 11x the BB. I think its a close one, I just feel unconfortable betting 300.

[/ QUOTE ]

Why do you feel uncomfortable pushing with 11x the BB with AJ but will push with 13x the BB into 5 oppoenents with 99?


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