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Roy6 10-27-2005 06:59 AM

Straight, very passive, very ugly?
 
UTG is terrible LAG 68/17/2.81, BB is fishy-passive

When UTG 3-bets the flop I put him on a Jack.
On the turn I hesitated to call or raise.
UTG can't have AJ since there was no PFR, also KJ is unlikely because of this. I was a bit afraid of a boat and would rather have fishy BB overcall this.
I think my call is terrible here. I have a nut straight-flush draw too.
On the river I really got scared of QJ, 8J or TJ so I decided just to call and go for a possible overcall because I can't fold to a 3-bet and the board is already 4-to-straight now, so BB is less likely to call 2 cold with just one pair.

Party Poker 3.00/6.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(6 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (3.33 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (6.17 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (9.17 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls,

GetThere1Time 10-27-2005 07:01 AM

Re: Straight, very passive, very ugly?
 
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UTG is terrible LAG 68/17/2.81, BB is fishy-passive

When UTG 3-bets the flop I put him on a Jack.


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deepsquat 10-27-2005 07:03 AM

Re: Straight, very passive, very ugly?
 
I think you can raise the turn. Id call down if 3bet as J10 JQ are pretty common hands. You def need more action.

Dont worry about overcalls, BB's prob not going anywhere

kurosh 10-27-2005 07:03 AM

Re: Straight, very passive, very ugly?
 
Cap flop, raise turn.

10-27-2005 07:14 AM

Re: Straight, very passive, very ugly?
 
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Cap flop, raise turn.

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Yep, you've got a monsterdraw which "made" it on the turn and you can't put a terrible LAG on a boat here.

Roy6 10-27-2005 07:17 AM

Re: Straight, very passive, very ugly?
 
Why would I cap the flop?
I think it's reasonable UTG has a jack here, even he's very agressive. I don't want to lose BB because I don't have an equity edge against a jack heads-up. I won't get any free cards.

10-27-2005 07:20 AM

Re: Straight, very passive, very ugly?
 
Because you have 15 outs to improve to the best hand, and you want to build a pot.

wonkadaddy 10-27-2005 12:51 PM

Re: Straight, very passive, very ugly?
 
call flop, raise turn. and if 3 bet on turn call down.

deception5 10-27-2005 01:15 PM

Re: Straight, very passive, very ugly?
 
[ QUOTE ]
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UTG is terrible LAG 68/17/2.81, BB is fishy-passive

When UTG 3-bets the flop I put him on a Jack.


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I agree - you are about to get run over at this table if this is your hand range for him at this point.

Drontier 10-27-2005 01:17 PM

Re: Straight, very passive, very ugly?
 
wow, im playing this hand very different. I either cap flop(duh equity edge AND HES LAG and the third guy is fishy??) I'm capping turn(lag once again). and I'm bet/calling river.


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