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tiltaholic 12-07-2005 03:34 PM

A Basic Preflop Question? AJo OTB
 
You are on the button with AJo

It is folded to MP3, a slightly loose but aggressive player who tends to overplay hands postflop, open raises. His stats are something like 27/14/2.5.

CO folds...

What do you do assuming the blinds are fairly decent players?

car ramrod 12-07-2005 03:41 PM

Re: A Basic Preflop Question? AJo OTB
 
I like a 3bet in this spot. His opening range is probably pretty wide. Getting it hu would be great. Bet the flop, and watch how often he folds.

tiltaholic 12-07-2005 03:45 PM

Re: A Basic Preflop Question? AJo OTB
 
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I like a 3bet in this spot. His opening range is probably pretty wide. Getting it hu would be great. Bet the flop, and watch how often he folds.

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do you mean the bolded part to be:

note how often he folds for future reference?

or

i think he'll fold a lot.


because my read of him "overplaying hands postflop" means to me that i don't think he's folding very often or at all to a flop bet.

bottomset 12-07-2005 03:53 PM

Re: A Basic Preflop Question? AJo OTB
 
I think you still want it HU with initiative, and an edge over his range

plus you have position which really helps in these situations against this type of player

Eeegah 12-07-2005 03:54 PM

Re: A Basic Preflop Question? AJo OTB
 
If we're going we're 3-betting for sure. Yeah I think we can take a stab at it.

@bsolute_luck 12-07-2005 03:57 PM

Re: A Basic Preflop Question? AJo OTB
 
easiest 3-bet for value and no i'm not folding if he caps.

Aaron W. 12-07-2005 03:57 PM

Re: A Basic Preflop Question? AJo OTB
 
This should be an automatic 3-bet.

What do you mean by "overplay" hands? Does this mean he won't slow down if his A5 hits a pair of aces and you raise him on the flop? Does it mean that he'll keep betting 77 on all streets to try to make you fold a pair? In either case, AJo probably has the best of it, but by taking dramatically different lines.

car ramrod 12-07-2005 03:58 PM

Re: A Basic Preflop Question? AJo OTB
 
I meant it to be he will fold a lot. I missed the part about him over playing hands post flop, but do you think your 3bet pf will slow him down post flop? Most guys like him will over play hands against you if you raised pf and they limped, but when you 3bet them they tend to give you more credit.

I still think you have a better hand then him often. You may have to outplay him post flop.

milesdyson 12-07-2005 03:58 PM

Re: A Basic Preflop Question? AJo OTB
 
so he's opening two off the button. his range is massive. his stats are similar to my shorthanded stats. so his range should be close to what i'd raise utg 5-handed.

and i would definitely 3-bet myself with AJo. coldcalling is bad because you're giving the blinds a chance to enter and you're relying on flopping something to win the hand.

MrWookie47 12-07-2005 04:09 PM

Re: A Basic Preflop Question? AJo OTB
 
This is one where reading it at face value (just stats) I toss it. Had I been at the table and I saw what sorts of things he was willing to raise, I could easily 3bet.


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