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12-17-2005 01:46 AM

Are these good tips to follow?
 
tips for texas holdem.
-dont go all in unless you can the opponent.
-use the strategy of tight-aggressive(meaning choose your hands wisely but when you have something bet it out).
-follow the tells: slow response by bet=strong hand, slow response by check=weak hand, fast response by check=weak hand, fast bet on the flop may mean bluff, fast bet on turn or river is a big hand.
-generally you need a weaker hand to raise than to call a hand of the equivalent raise.
-play tighter in the beginning of a tournament and gradually get looser to steal some blinds.
-use the power of position(the best position in holdem is the person who is last to act, for he can steal the blinds). The person last to act is best because he has the most information.
-raise big pairs to get less callers and try to call multiway pots with suited connectors. Remember AA won't hold up against 7 people but a drawing hand like 89spades might.
-do not go all in on a draw.
-generally do not play hopeless cards like 7/2 8/3 before the flop. Just throw them away.
-figure out what kind of opponents you are playing up against(conservative,aggressive,super aggressive) and alter your play according to the player.
-try not to go on tilt(when you are on tilt any suited cards look like a good all in hand).
-Generally do not show your hands. The less information the better.
-contradicting the above, if you are a bluffer show your strong hands. If you only play strong hands show your bluffs.
-do not be a calling station, either fold or raise.
-only go for the blind steal when the blinds are actually large enough to steal - not early in touraments.
-do not go on tilt after a bad beat.
-When equating whether a decision is sound or not consider the following: your cards, what you think your opponent has, and pot odds.
-do not overbluff. it is fun to bluff but only bluff occasionally.
-generally your style should be the opposite of the table(if it is conservative you should be aggressive)
-luck is a big factor in tournaments. If you analyze your play and you still lost you have to realize tournament poker has a huge luck factor involved.
-when the table gets smaller, your starting hand selection should go down in quality. The opposite is true for larger tables.
-don't fall into the ACE KING RUT. Ace king is a fine hand but remember, you don't even have a pair you just have a draw.
-Top pair/ [censored] kicker may not be good enough. Don't think that top pair/[censored] kicker is the best hand if there is lots of raising.
-When playing texas holdem you want to maximize your profits and minimize your losses. Its all about not going broke on one hand.
-Use defensive raises to figure out where you stand in the hand and if your beat.
-The check followed by the raises indicates a player trying to be tricky usually with an excellent hand.
-Don't raise with ace anything unless trying to steal blinds. A common mistake of online players is to really bet ace-x really hard.
-Usually you do not want to go all in with one pair unless it is preflop.
-if you have top pair punish drawing hands by betting big.

SoftcoreRevolt 12-17-2005 05:11 AM

Re: Are these good tips to follow?
 
If this is for online, the "fast checking" means weak "fast bet" means strong is just stupid.

There's a lot of silly general things that shouldn't be thought of as rules in a game as situation specific as Texas Holding Them.

The Ace King thing is just stupid too. ACE KING IS A DRAWING HAND is a stupid stupid mindset.

henrikrh 12-17-2005 06:01 AM

Re: Are these good tips to follow?
 
"-do not go on tilt after a bad beat."

The only solid, non-situational advice I see in there.

Edit: Here's myt advice to you, read 2+2 and read some 2+2 books, and play loads, experience will teach you.

b33nz 12-19-2005 04:41 PM

Re: Are these good tips to follow?
 
These are very general, basic rules. These tips would probably be halfway decent for a core beginner but nobody else.

cardcounter0 12-19-2005 06:56 PM

Tell Tips Needs Some Work
 
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slow response by check=weak hand,
fast response by check=weak hand,


[/ QUOTE ]

So I guess if it is fast or slow a check means a weak hand, unless of course they have a monster and are checking (fast or slow) to suck you in.

Likewise ...

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slow response by bet=strong hand, fast bet on the flop may mean bluff, fast bet on turn or river is a big hand.

[/ QUOTE ]

So if they bet slow it is a strong hand, unless they bet fast on turn or river it is a big hand, unless it is that fast bet bluff on the flop.
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12-19-2005 08:12 PM

Re: Tell Tips Needs Some Work
 
I think overall these tips are great if they're targeted at new players who know poker from tv and want to give micro stakes NL or tourneys a shot. Basically against bad opposition they'll be correct "enough" of the time to not get crushed too quickly.

That said, I agree that these really are just default tips when you know absolutely nothing else about the game you're in or the players you're facing. Almost every piece of advice is situational, which is fine, but dangerous once you play against players that play situations too.

tonypaladino 12-19-2005 09:12 PM

Re: Are these good tips to follow?
 
"-generally your style should be the opposite of the table(if it is conservative you should be aggressive)"


NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

TheBlueMonster 12-20-2005 02:29 AM

Re: Are these good tips to follow?
 
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-dont go all in unless you can the opponent.

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Jdanz 12-20-2005 08:44 AM

Re: Are these good tips to follow?
 
these tips are rules posing as guidelines, and they are imho anethma to someone who wants to gain a solid grasp of poker strategy.

The play of hands is by nature situational, and hard fast rules, rather then general theories are almost always wrong.

SCfuji 12-20-2005 11:06 AM

Re: Are these good tips to follow?
 
-always wear sunglasses at the table and take three minutes to act.


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