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liucipher 12-12-2005 10:51 PM

$11: am i sloppy?
 
I just started 4-tabling. No reads.

Am I:
a.) a little girl for not wanting to play AK out of position
b.) brilliant for somehow dodging the slowplayed AA
c.) your standard 2+2er looking for better edges later on

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

MP2 (t730)
MP3 (t800)
CO (t730)
Button (t790)
SB (t785)
Hero (t800)
UTG (t730)
UTG+1 (t715)
UTG+2 (t800)
MP1 (t1120)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t30</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t100</font>, 3 folds, Hero folds

ilya 12-12-2005 10:55 PM

Re: $11: am i sloppy?
 
I would call.

Also, can we go easier on using women as a metaphor for weakness/cowardice. It's getting a bit out of control here in STT.

wuwei 12-12-2005 10:58 PM

Re: $11: am i sloppy?
 
Folding is fine for 1/8th of your stack oop. I fold or shove depending on the reraiser.

handsome 12-12-2005 11:01 PM

Re: $11: am i sloppy?
 
Calling is a leak.

liucipher 12-12-2005 11:01 PM

Re: $11: am i sloppy?
 
Sorry for the anti-women remarks. Threads titled like that get more responses [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I considered calling, but didn't like 1.) being out of position 2.) t100 3.) UTG+1 left to act. Is that horrendous or neutral?

Say I folded. If UTG+1 pushes and MP3 calls, it is high time to get the fizz00k out of there right?

Mvcode3 12-12-2005 11:02 PM

Re: $11:
 
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Folding is fine for 1/8th of your stack oop. I fold or shove depending on the reraiser.

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If you shove what are you going to get called by? AA-KK-QQ
mabye JJ. Does AQ or worse call here? If your are called at best you are on the wrong side of a coin flip.

microbet 12-12-2005 11:22 PM

Re: $11:
 
In the $109s I would guess about 1/2 the players call with AQ. Maybe 1/3.

wuwei 12-12-2005 11:32 PM

Re: $11:
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Folding is fine for 1/8th of your stack oop. I fold or shove depending on the reraiser.

[/ QUOTE ]

If you shove what are you going to get called by? AA-KK-QQ
mabye JJ. Does AQ or worse call here? If your are called at best you are on the wrong side of a coin flip.

[/ QUOTE ]

JJ doesn't fold here very often. Hell, I don't fold JJ here 50% of the time. Yes, you get called by all kinds of hands that would suprise you. Don't forget we hold an A and K, so AA and KK are less likely.

Mvcode3 12-12-2005 11:32 PM

Re: $11:
 
[ QUOTE ]
In the $109s I would guess about 1/2 the players call with AQ. Maybe 1/3.

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Would you call or push here then?

Postiga 12-12-2005 11:35 PM

Re: $11:
 
Yep I see people calling this with 77 up in the 109s, plus AT up. You're definitely either raising or folding. You can't call in the 800 chip structure. I'd probably fold most of the time.


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