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Sightless 10-19-2005 03:16 PM

I know Im beat on the turn, but what do i do on the river
 
SB plays over 60%of his hands, and raises about 3% of hands preflop, postflop he seems decent, and has AF 1.4

When he c/r me on the turn i knew I was behind, but figured I was probably good enough to continue... What does Hero do at the river?Raise, Call?Fold?
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Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (5 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="orange"> Hero? </font>

2+2 Junkie 10-19-2005 03:23 PM

Re: I know Im beat on the turn, but what do i do on the river
 
I am new to 6-max, but is A9o a raisable hand UTG?

I would fold the river, I think we are beat here often enough when the villian goes for the check raise. In 6-max I tend to not fear the raisers on the flop as much as I do the call, check-raise. You are almost alwasy beat on a call check-raise line from villain.

Aaron W. 10-19-2005 03:25 PM

Re: I know Im beat on the turn, but what do i do on the river
 
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SB plays over 60%of his hands, and raises about 3% of hands preflop, postflop he seems decent, and has AF 1.4

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That's really really aggressive postflop for someone who plays 60% of his hands.

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When he c/r me on the turn i knew I was behind, but figured I was probably good enough to continue...

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What do you mean by that? Did you have odds to chase your 3-outer? Was there enough doubt where you could call the check-raise? What hands did you put him on?

RandBriscoe 10-19-2005 03:25 PM

Re: I know Im beat on the turn, but what do i do on the river
 
I fold pf. However, since you played...

The pot is super tiny on the turn, he c-r'ed a pf raiser with an A and a Q on board. He should put you on a relatively robust holding given your raise UTG and he doesn't seem to care. Given your read, I fold.

aargh57 10-19-2005 03:26 PM

Re: I know Im beat on the turn, but what do i do on the river
 
You think you're behind on the turn but not 100% sure right. I figure these are his likely hands (in order of likelyhood (is that a word?)
2 pair without A, 2 pair with A, TPGK, TPNK,trips,made straight, a draw

On the river you now have QT beat but not much else in that list. I think you fold. I think my second choice is raise and fold to a reraise.

RandBriscoe 10-19-2005 03:29 PM

Re: I know Im beat on the turn, but what do i do on the river
 
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I think my second choice is raise and fold to a reraise.

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IMO, an awful play. You can show it down and save a BB by calling.

Sightless 10-19-2005 03:29 PM

Re: I know Im beat on the turn, but what do i do on the river
 
It was only 5 players playing, so A9o UTG with 5 players is a raise according to my chart.

I put him on 2 pair to be honest..Queen and either ten or seven and I thought either, Ace, Nine, Either ten or seven would help me

aargh57 10-19-2005 03:29 PM

Re: I know Im beat on the turn, but what do i do on the river
 
I raise this pf 5 handed UTG too.

aargh57 10-19-2005 03:32 PM

Re: I know Im beat on the turn, but what do i do on the river
 
taking that line I guess you at least call then right?

Sightless 10-19-2005 03:33 PM

Re: I know Im beat on the turn, but what do i do on the river
 
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taking that line I guess you at least call then right?

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yeah, would anyone raise the river though?


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