Fact or Fiction?
 

A world class SNG player could sustain a positive ROI in $10 SNG's without looking at his cards, provided his opponents didn't know he was doing it.

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Fiction, because there are a lot of callingstations and you have to show the best hand more often.

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A world class SNG player could sustain a positive ROI in $10 SNG's without looking at his cards, provided his opponents didn't know he was doing it.

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Already tried by Irieguy a few months ago....PM him for results....I think he was beating them (over a small sample)
but gave-up the experiment due to boredom and $/hr. probs

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I've never googled a blog - but I know Fishman plays this way for practice...he'll take the tape off 3 handed or heads up.

As far as his ROI...I got no idea.

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I think I'll give it a shot. For the past week, I've been losing all-ins at a rate of about 9:1, so not looking at my cards couldn't possibly be any worse.

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A world class SNG player could sustain a positive ROI in $10 SNG's without looking at his cards, provided his opponents didn't know he was doing it.

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Isn't a better question if a world class SNG player could do this at HIGH LIMIT SnG table? (Honestly - don't think it coudl be done a $10 now that I think about...)

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A world class SNG player could sustain a positive ROI in $10 SNG's without looking at his cards, provided his opponents didn't know he was doing it.

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Isn't a better question if a world class SNG player could do this at HIGH LIMIT SnG table? (Honestly - don't think it coudl be done a $10 now that I think about...)

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No. If it can be done, it would only be possible at low stakes. High stakes players don't make enough mistakes. Whereas in a $11, he'll be folding his first 30-40 hands and the other players will be calling all ins with inside straight draws. It will be 6-7 handed by the time he starts playing, which is the only reason he might have a shot at this.

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A world class SNG player could sustain a positive ROI in $10 SNG's without looking at his cards, provided his opponents didn't know he was doing it.

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Isn't a better question if a world class SNG player could do this at HIGH LIMIT SnG table? (Honestly - don't think it coudl be done a $10 now that I think about...)

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No. If it can be done, it would only be possible at low stakes. High stakes players don't make enough mistakes. Whereas in a $11, he'll be folding his first 30-40 hands and the other players will be calling all ins with inside straight draws. It will be 6-7 handed by the time he starts playing, which is the only reason he might have a shot at this.

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Good point.

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Could also steal some limped or heads-up pots on the flop in position depending on the characteristics of the opponents and the flop texture. And add in some resteals and PVS-type moves starting when the blinds are 25-50ish. I really think this is possible, and a friend told me I was crazy.

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Definitely fact.

I'm far from world class but I've played enough 11s to think that I'd at least have a chance to do this.

In fact, if there were some way to verify results (but I suppose there's not), I'd be up for a challenge.

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A world class SNG player could sustain a positive ROI in $10 SNG's without looking at his cards, provided his opponents didn't know he was doing it.

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I think it would be awfully tough to do completely blind. If I was allowed to see when I was dealt JJ-AA I'd probably take a challenge to play the rest blind and come out ahead, but getting paid off at showdown with big hands is just so important in SnGs that it seems it would be awfully tough to win if that is taken away from you.

I don't care enough to try, that's for sure.

eastbay

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Fiction, because there are a lot of callingstations and you have to show the best hand more often.

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Part of being a world class SNG player is knowing which players are calling stations and playing accordingly. I also remember reading an article about Fischman where he said he played with tape covering his cards, but that may have been MTT's, and who knows if he was actually winning while doing this.