Re: boring huge draw 2/4 HU hand
 

There was no preflop action.

Re: boring huge draw 2/4 HU hand
 

HU Pot:

Flop: $10
Bet $8, Call.

Turn: $26
Bet: $20, Call.

River: $66.

Am I missing something?

Re: boring huge draw 2/4 HU hand
 

I think I bet 6 on the flop and he raised to 15, then he bet 20 on the turn. And the pot does not start at 10.

Re: boring huge draw 2/4 HU hand
 

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And the pot does not start at 10.

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Was thinking there was a dead SB in there...

Furthermore, I think that "quite a bit" may be quite a bit of an overstatement in the example provided.

anyway... with the information you've given me about this hand... no, I do not find it to be important.

Re: boring huge draw 2/4 HU hand
 

Even against a horrible player your turn c/r all-win will have "some" Fold equity... So I personally don't think it's that bad. Against your average person I think it's one of your better options though. Based on how you described the villain I'm inclined to agree calling the turn and pushing the river should you hit is your best alternative.

Re: boring huge draw 2/4 HU hand
 

bet the full pot on this flop, hand plays differently.

Re: boring huge draw 2/4 HU hand
 

Then I just push the turn? or?

Re: boring huge draw 2/4 HU hand
 

yeah, pushing the turn works, it REALLY depends on the card though. (but I'd have trouble not pushing most of them)

Re: boring huge draw 2/4 HU hand
 

He called with J9o. River was the 10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. That table filled up again or something, or maybe he just left, but I ended up playing with him at another table not too long after this, and it seems he was on huge tilt. I rivered a wheel against him (with both hole cards) and bet $35 into a $40 pot and he insta-pushed for $85 or so with eight high. A while later I raised utg (four-handed) with 64s and he min-reraised with 44 and then insta-pushed for $80 on a flop of QQ6. I insta-called. He was not pleased. I don't know what happened at any other tables he was playing, but I imagine that losing this $600+ pot going in with the best hand contributed greatly to his tilt and allowed me to score another $200 from him. Should I include that in my EV of pushing the turn? (I'm only half-joking.)

I still think that my turn push had *some* folding equity, but since this is the first time he had called a preflop reraise I really had no feel for his range of hands after the flop call. This guy may make loose calls but if he has something like ATo I can't imagine him playing a $600 pot. (But I have no idea if ATo is in his hand range at this point, so...) I've played my big hands pretty fast against him so I should have credibility here.

Re: boring huge draw 2/4 HU hand
 

I prefer a call on the turn, hitting [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and river, and then making use of the fact he's unbluffable.