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MoreWineII 11-29-2005 07:17 PM

Nut flush river decision
 
I haven't posted a hand in a loooong time mostly because I haven't played in a looooong time, so keep that in mind when you read this.

I played this hand in a recent very loose-passive 3/6 b&m game:

I get a5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on the button. Four players limp, I limp, SB folds, BB checks.

Flop: qj3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Checked to me, I bet. Youngish ABC-ish player calls. This was the most aggressive guy at the table other than me, which wasn't saying much. He wasn't really imaginitive in any way, mostly the impression I got was that he liked to pump his draws.

Turn: j [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] He bets, I raise, he calls.

River: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] He bets, I fold. I think it was 9 big bets to me at this point.

How close was my river decision? Did I fail spectacularly? My main reasoning was this: I don't think this hand gets folded by many players this guy usually plays against. I'd been at the table about an hour and I didn't believe he had any great read on me as anything different. Therefore, I think he expects me to call. Which led me to believe that he wasn't bluffing. I felt like it was a pretty close decision and this line of logic led me to fold.

This decision is still kind of bugging me a few days later so I thought I'd ask.

TripleH68 11-29-2005 11:13 PM

Re: Nut flush river decision
 
Too bad you haven't played in a loooong time.
What happened to the cool avatar?

Villain puts you on TP or an overpair, possibly with a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or AK. He bets the turn to prevent your checking behind and you raise. This means you have a jack or made flush. Surely you aren't raising on a draw you can't fold to the 3-bet.

I don't think a player like you described would run at you with TP on the river.
Plus it helps that you hold the A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] as sometimes these guys get gutsy with the nut draw.

I think if he has not seen you fold the river yet you are plenty safe here. In the live 3/6 or 4/8 games I have played in folding the river basically never happens so I like your thinking.

tetonpete 11-29-2005 11:49 PM

Re: Nut flush river decision
 
i think you're good better than one in nine times....he holds a queen or smaller flush more often than that


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