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Jerkass333 12-16-2005 04:00 PM

97o from SB NL200
 
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

CO ($224.75)
Button ($193.50)
Hero ($983.85)
BB ($35.95)
UTG ($154.35)
UTG+1 ($191.85)
MP1 ($243.38)
MP2 ($180)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, UTG+1 calls $2, MP1 calls $2, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($10) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, BB calls $33.95 (All-In), UTG calls $33.95, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $200</font>

I'm still tring to get used to NL, let me know if this is bad. My thinking was that whatever he's calling BBs significant all-in bet with might be too hard to get away from if I push. BB is 33/2.

Leptyne 12-16-2005 04:30 PM

Re: 97o from SB NL200
 
I like your putting him all-in. He's probably got an overpair. Could be anything from AA-TT but you would think you'd have heard from AA,KK, or a set. Could be a slowplayed set of 3's, but maybe he folds these to your raise. If he's slowplayed one of the other sets you'll end up losing a bunch anyway.

Morrek 12-16-2005 04:40 PM

Re: 97o from SB NL200
 
I don't think TT-AA is very likely considering the lack of preflop action. I can however definetly see UTG having either top pair or some draw he likes, in which case you should be getting the money in now when he's still thinking he "could hit". I wouldn't be too worried about BB.

NickPoker 12-16-2005 04:49 PM

Re: 97o from SB NL200
 
This would be a pretty bad call by the villain if he is on a draw. He could easily have something like A9 or any pocket pair 10's or lower. I think your play is decent, if he as a set you are going to lose a lot anyway as Leptyne mentioned. This of course is assuming no reads.

SmileyEH 12-16-2005 04:51 PM

Re: 97o from SB NL200
 
You're only really worried about protecting your hand from two hands, T8 and 86...neither of which are that likely for villian. Therefore your primary concern is extracting value from worse hands - you are going bust here against a set. Pushing this flop doesn't seem like the best way to get your opp's money when he has a better hand. I would just call and bet the turn.

-SmileyEH

Morrek 12-16-2005 05:47 PM

Re: 97o from SB NL200
 
Yeah ofcourse it depends on reads, but the pot is so big I think he has troubles letting go of this one regardless of what he's holding. Call and put half on turn half on river might get more out of some hands, but I really wanna get more money in now to prevent future mistakes if a scarecard hits (a T for example, "does he have 9T? 68? maybe I should slow down?") and it gives your opponent a chance to make a mistake calling with a draw, being tempted by the huge pot. I also like to win the big pots now, instead of waiting to milk out every last bit

ahnuld 12-16-2005 06:04 PM

Re: 97o from SB NL200
 
Id be really worried that the coldcaller has a set. I think I push too because 8T 86 are possible, but I dont like the coldcall at all.

Big_Jim 12-16-2005 06:11 PM

Re: 97o from SB NL200
 
Any reads on UTG? Any way he limps in with/goes broke here with A9?

I definately think you're ahead of BB a lot, but unless UTG is open limping a lot with suited gappers or will go broke with a 9/donkey overpair, I would seriously debate letting this go on the flop.

Jerkass333 12-16-2005 06:18 PM

Re: 97o from SB NL200
 
[ QUOTE ]
Any reads on UTG? Any way he limps in with/goes broke here with A9?

I definately think you're ahead of BB a lot, but unless UTG is open limping a lot with suited gappers or will go broke with a 9/donkey overpair, I would seriously debate letting this go on the flop.

[/ QUOTE ]

Unfortunately I have no real read on utg other than his stats, but I think 30/2 is fairly wide range and overpairs or suited connectors that got a piece aren't out of the question.

NickPoker 12-16-2005 06:19 PM

Re: 97o from SB NL200
 
Jim, wouldn't you at least call here. Even if UTG isn't willing to go broke with A9 (unless you mean by going broke calling the BB bet), doesn't mean he doesn't have it. Maybe he folds to aggression, but you still take down the $70 in the pot. I don't think hero has been given any reason to fold this hand at this point. Two other things working against a set here are that 1/3 of the cards to complete a set are in hero's hand.


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