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jokerthief 11-18-2005 04:07 PM

How to translate prima rakeback
 
Prima calculates mgr by contributed rake which results in much lower mgr than party or absolute. They offer higher than normal rakeback however. Does anyone know how to translate prima rakeback percentages to the other system like empire's?

11-18-2005 04:27 PM

Re: How to translate prima rakeback
 
It depends on what limit you are playing.

jokerthief 11-18-2005 06:10 PM

Re: How to translate prima rakeback
 
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It depends on what limit you are playing.

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How about 5/10?

Pokeraddict 11-18-2005 06:28 PM

Re: How to translate prima rakeback
 
It also depends on how many pots you are in. There is not a one size fits all equasion. If you are extremely weak tight it will affect you more then a player that is looser. A call station would even benefit from this rakeback setup compare to the typical formula.

StellarWind 11-18-2005 07:42 PM

Re: How to translate prima rakeback
 
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Prima calculates mgr by contributed rake which results in much lower mgr than party or absolute. They offer higher than normal rakeback however. Does anyone know how to translate prima rakeback percentages to the other system like empire's?

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On average the two methods produce the same MGR. Each approach takes the total rake collected and divides it up amongst the players at the table.

It's only when you consider individual players that a difference emerges. So no general formula is possible. Loose players and especially those who are loose postflop do best in the Prima method. Merely seeing a lot of flops doesn't help much. For example, suppose you complete the SB and fold the flop in what becomes a 10 BB pot that is raked $3. You will get a 1/40 share equal to 7.5 cents of MGR. It's the players who went to the river that get most of the $3 of MGR.

jokerthief 11-18-2005 09:16 PM

Re: How to translate prima rakeback
 
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On average the two methods produce the same MGR. Each approach takes the total rake collected and divides it up amongst the players at the table.

It's only when you consider individual players that a difference emerges. So no general formula is possible. Loose players and especially those who are loose postflop do best in the Prima method. Merely seeing a lot of flops doesn't help much. For example, suppose you complete the SB and fold the flop in what becomes a 10 BB pot that is raked $3. You will get a 1/40 share equal to 7.5 cents of MGR. It's the players who went to the river that get most of the $3 of MGR.

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Thanks, this is some good information.

StellarWind, what would you estimate an average VP$IP of 18% would relate to a empire rakeback by comparison?


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