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Aaron W. 11-05-2005 09:23 PM

Amusing AKs hand
 
UTG is a little LAGgy. He likes betting his draws and has been caught bet-folding the turn a couple times, making me believe that he's probably bluffing in a few spots. He keeps hitting his 5-out draws to two pair and trips on me. Everyone else is new to the table (within 10 hands).

Paradise Poker 1/2 Hold'em (5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, Button calls, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, MP calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero ...

McGahee 11-05-2005 09:26 PM

Re: Amusing AKs hand
 
You're just begging somebody to say "bet and hope UTG raises". OK I'll bite.

HouseCalls 11-05-2005 09:34 PM

Re: Amusing AKs hand
 
OK I'll bite too. I almost always lead out here unless I'm checking just to vary my play...

rafct 11-05-2005 09:51 PM

Re: Amusing AKs hand
 

This is interesting. I almost never lead out this with:
no position,
many opponents,
very coordinated flop.
Can betting out be a good move?

2+2 wannabe 11-05-2005 10:16 PM

Re: Amusing AKs hand
 
I never lead out here - check:

1. you don't have the best hand 99% of the time
2. there's 4 others on a draw-heavy board - you're not folding everyone
3. you don't want to pay two bets to see the turn (if it's two coming back you're probably folding, but have to call if you bet and get raised)

RustyCJ 11-05-2005 10:21 PM

Re: Amusing AKs hand
 
*grunch*

agree with the others, you might get 1 fold here but 2 and maybe 3 are staying around. No one had to call 2 cold to get in so it's much more difficult to put a range on the hands that might be out against you. Out of position with a draw heavy flop, I don't bet here either.

McGahee 11-05-2005 10:28 PM

Re: Amusing AKs hand
 
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I never lead out here - check:

1. you don't have the best hand 99% of the time
2. there's 4 others on a draw-heavy board - you're not folding everyone
3. you don't want to pay two bets to see the turn (if it's two coming back you're probably folding, but have to call if you bet and get raised)

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The key is that UTG is the most likely guy to raise and we may have a better hand than him.
We might not get everyone to fold, but we could very well fold hands we want to fold. If 96 coldcalls it's not a big deal, but if A7 folds because they're facing 2 cold that's a huge plus for us.

McGahee 11-05-2005 10:30 PM

Re: Amusing AKs hand
 
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*grunch*

agree with the others

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RustyCJ 11-05-2005 10:33 PM

Re: Amusing AKs hand
 
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*grunch*

agree with the others

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I agreed with what previous posters had said, what's to be confused about?

Aaron W. 11-05-2005 10:34 PM

Re: Amusing AKs hand
 
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*grunch*

agree with the others

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I agreed with what previous posters had said, what's to be confused about?

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That contradicts *grunch*


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