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stir 08-04-2005 03:21 PM

Help Needed William Hill bonus???
 
I've seen a couple of references to William Hill monthly casino bonuses. Being a noob at casino whoring, I can't figure out what you need to do to get the monthly. Can someone lead me throught the steps to get the casino monthly bonus? TIA. (I have a William Hill poker account)

TGoldman 08-04-2005 04:05 PM

Re: Help Needed William Hill bonus???
 
Just download the casino software from the WillHill website. Then login using your regular poker username/password and you can play the bonuses there. There's a pretty good initial bonus for first time casino players if I recall correctly. I'm still not completely sure how it works re: the monthly bonus. Do you get 25 lb per month at both the casino and pokerroom or one or the other?

stir 08-04-2005 05:07 PM

Re: Help Needed William Hill bonus???
 
This is what I was wondering as well. I know you can get a recurring poker monthly bonus.

Is there a recurring casino bonus? If so, how/ what do you need to do to receive it?

HRFats 08-04-2005 06:19 PM

Re: Help Needed William Hill bonus???
 
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This is what I was wondering as well. I know you can get a recurring poker monthly bonus.

Is there a recurring casino bonus? If so, how/ what do you need to do to receive it?

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They have both a monthly Casino and monthly Poker that are independant of each other. The monthly Casino is usually $40 USD and you will receive it after you deposit at least $40 into the casino AND convert your deposit to chips. When you convert is will tell you that you received a bonus of $40 and your balance should be your deposit plus $40. Again, you must deposit at least $40...

PLOlover 08-04-2005 06:29 PM

Re: Help Needed William Hill bonus???
 
I didn't make the initial 80 bonus last month, I think I withdrew my initial 80 after like 1000 wagered or so.

So If I deposit the 40 this month, do I have to wager 800 for this month plus the 600 bonus I "owe" from last month?

PLOlover 08-04-2005 06:30 PM

Re: Help Needed William Hill bonus???
 
Also maybe it's a change, but the 40$/month is no longer risk free, you cannot cash out anything until you have completed the bonus.

HRFats 08-04-2005 06:44 PM

Re: Help Needed William Hill bonus???
 
Yes, you have to clear your remaining WR from last month. And the withdrawal restriction must be new this month because I have been withdrawing every month for six months with no problems.

joeski19 08-16-2005 12:09 PM

Re: Help Needed William Hill bonus???
 
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Also maybe it's a change, but the 40$/month is no longer risk free, you cannot cash out anything until you have completed the bonus.

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Can anyone confirm this?

playersare 08-16-2005 12:16 PM

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Also maybe it's a change, but the 40$/month is no longer risk free, you cannot cash out anything until you have completed the bonus.

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Can anyone confirm this?

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still seems risk free to me.

PoorLawyer 08-16-2005 01:55 PM

Re: Help Needed William Hill bonus???
 
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Yes, you have to clear your remaining WR from last month. And the withdrawal restriction must be new this month because I have been withdrawing every month for six months with no problems.

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can't you just remember what you started with and stop if you are about to go below that.....in other words, it is still risk free.

PoorLawyer 08-16-2005 01:56 PM

Re: Help Needed William Hill bonus???
 
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Also maybe it's a change, but the 40$/month is no longer risk free, you cannot cash out anything until you have completed the bonus.

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Can anyone confirm this?

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still seems risk free to me.

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I did it yesterday with no problems...worked the same as last month except I actually won 100 quid this month!

Radio 08-16-2005 04:45 PM

Re: Help Needed William Hill bonus???
 
It cant be risk free because i got this from the terms and conditions on their web site :

"The Casino encourages end users to participate in promotions, but to refrain from abusing them. Any abuse of a promotion that comes to the attention of the Casino may result in the cancellation of that promotion and/or future promotion. Our definition of abuse by end users includes, but is not entirely made up of, making use of promotional offers such a match deposits without ever risking their own funds."

So if you cash out as soon as you have met the bonus then your abusing it because your not risking your own money.

PoorLawyer 08-16-2005 04:51 PM

Re: Help Needed William Hill bonus???
 
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It cant be risk free because i got this from the terms and conditions on their web site :

"The Casino encourages end users to participate in promotions, but to refrain from abusing them. Any abuse of a promotion that comes to the attention of the Casino may result in the cancellation of that promotion and/or future promotion. Our definition of abuse by end users includes, but is not entirely made up of, making use of promotional offers such a match deposits without ever risking their own funds."

So if you cash out as soon as you have met the bonus then your abusing it because your not risking your own money.

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it IS risk free. If you deposit 50 bucks and they give you a 25 match, you can bet with the 75 balance immediately and stop if you are losing before you dip into your original 50. Therefore, you can never lose that 50 as long as you have any self-control to stop placing wagers. Therefore, there is no risk.

Radio 08-16-2005 04:56 PM

Re: Help Needed William Hill bonus???
 
But is that not what they are getting at, Your not risking your own funds, the 50 you deposit! your only playing with bonus money and any winnings above that, never your own cash!

PoorLawyer 08-16-2005 04:59 PM

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But is that not what they are getting at, Your not risking your own funds, the 50 you deposit! your only playing with bonus money and any winnings above that, never your own cash!

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it is your own cash as soon as you clear the wagering requirement.

08-16-2005 05:02 PM

Re: Help Needed William Hill bonus???
 
Maybe you could do it risk-free, but you shouldn't. For one thing, the uncleared WR carries over from month to month, whether you bust out or withdraw before clearing. More importantly, this is a monthly bonus. You can get it several times before you get banned, if you don't blatantly abuse it. If you do blatantly abuse it by withdrawing your original deposit before you've cleared the WR, guess what? You'll get banned immediately.

So sack it up and accept some +EV risk.

Radio 08-16-2005 05:09 PM

Re: Help Needed William Hill bonus???
 
but once you clear the wr then you withdraw is that not the point, why keep playing risking your money once its clear maybe a few hands but thats it! would that be enough to say that you are infact risking your own cash.

HRFats 08-16-2005 05:59 PM

Re: Help Needed William Hill bonus???
 
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Maybe you could do it risk-free, but you shouldn't. For one thing, the uncleared WR carries over from month to month, whether you bust out or withdraw before clearing. More importantly, this is a monthly bonus. You can get it several times before you get banned, if you don't blatantly abuse it. If you do blatantly abuse it by withdrawing your original deposit before you've cleared the WR, guess what? You'll get banned immediately.

So sack it up and accept some +EV risk.

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Hell, I've been clearing this bonus risk free for 6 months at least. And the time I busted, I waited until the following month and used their bonus to clear the previous plus current month WR. I was not banned immediately, I was not banned 6 months later...but play at your own risk.

playersare 08-16-2005 06:18 PM

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but once you clear the wr then you withdraw is that not the point, why keep playing risking your money once its clear maybe a few hands but thats it! would that be enough to say that you are infact risking your own cash.

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you're taking the term too literally for this discussion. when it comes to casino whoring in general, "risk-free" simply means any bonus which is cashable (non-sticky), given to you up front upon deposit, and does not deduct from your withdrawable balance.

if you choose not to accept normal variance and withdraw as soon as you hit your original deposit, then generally your WR will carry over to the next reload. so in the long run the EV will be the same, and the casino technically shouldn't care how you play it off. while you may not be losing any of your "own" money, you may also one day have a situation where you're ahead $50 with $10,000 of built-up wagering to go, which mathematically is about break-even playing blackjack.

PoorLawyer 08-17-2005 10:47 AM

Re: Help Needed William Hill bonus???
 
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Maybe you could do it risk-free, but you shouldn't. For one thing, the uncleared WR carries over from month to month, whether you bust out or withdraw before clearing. More importantly, this is a monthly bonus. You can get it several times before you get banned, if you don't blatantly abuse it. If you do blatantly abuse it by withdrawing your original deposit before you've cleared the WR, guess what? You'll get banned immediately.

So sack it up and accept some +EV risk.

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Hell, I've been clearing this bonus risk free for 6 months at least. And the time I busted, I waited until the following month and used their bonus to clear the previous plus current month WR. I was not banned immediately, I was not banned 6 months later...but play at your own risk.

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Exactly.

And, the only risk is that you can't do the bonus anymore, not a monetary one.


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