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KK - overpair hell

Hand 1: Player had 47/20 stats after 60 hands, but no other reads. No reads for the other two hands. I felt like I couldn't raise anywhere in hand 1, but I guess most can find a fold on this river? Hand 2 just felt gross. Thoughts?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP ($42.40)
CO ($48.25)
Button ($59.47)
SB ($23.90)
BB ($55.58)
Hero ($67.70)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
Hero raises to $2, 4 folds, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3, BB calls $3.

Turn: ($10.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $6, Hero calls $6.

River: ($22.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $15, Hero calls $15.

Final Pot: $52.25

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SB ($54.50)
BB ($80.85)
UTG ($16)
MP ($97.34)
CO ($50.40)
Hero ($77.10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
2 folds, CO calls $0.50, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, BB calls $2.50, CO folds.

Flop: ($6.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5, BB raises to $10, Hero calls $5.

Turn: ($26.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $15, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $41.75

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

CO ($109.87)
Button ($17.51)
SB ($185.87)
BB ($46.90)
UTG ($17.50)
Hero ($45.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, SB (poster) calls $1.75, 1 fold.

Flop: ($4.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3, SB raises to $6, Hero calls $3.

Turn: ($16.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero calls $2.

River: ($20.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $12, Hero calls $12.

Final Pot: $44.50

Re: KK - overpair hell

Hand 1 - I fold that turn.
Hand 2 - I probably come over the top of that flop raise and then drop to further agression...surely he didn't spike a gutshot on that turn though.
Hand 3 - reraise the flop or at least raise the turn...fold to further agression.

Re: KK - overpair hell

Hand 1: The pot is relatively small so I could find it in myself to call but mucking the turn seems much better.

Hand 2: Why bother calling the min-raise on the flop? If I had the K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] I'd continue.

Hand 3: Why not raise the turn & muck to a river lead?

Re: KK - overpair hell

Hand 1: Bet nearer pot size on this flop. I probably would have called on the river too, but I really cant think of any hands you are beating. If villain had AJ/QQ then he sure played it strangely. J9s is the only other hand I can really think of.

Hand 2: Youre behind most of the time here, and I'm not sure how much you'll pay to find out for sure, so I'd fold.

Hand 3: Why not raise the turn?

Cheers!

Ojo_Rojo

Re: KK - overpair hell

What is villain's most likely hand in the 3 situations?

Re: KK - overpair hell

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What is villain's most likely hand in the 3 situations?

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Hand 1: Any 7x, possibily a flush
Hand 2: I won't say a straight but how about two pair 56, 69, etc?
Hand 3: QJ, KJ, AJ,

Re: KK - overpair hell

On Hand 2, isnt folding an overpair to the minraise on the flop a little weak? Surely then you are a semi-bluff minraisers dream opponent. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Ojo_Rojo

Re: KK - overpair hell

What the hell is Villain doing in hand 3?? Minimum check-raise on the flop, then $2 into a $16 pot on the turn? Anyone think QT? I like raising the turn here.

Re: KK - overpair hell

1) I kinda like how you played this but it's probably -EV. You are most likely behind and without the K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] it sucks even more.

2) Yuk. I am not sure on this one. Folding the flop seems weak but then again the turn card is an ugly one too.

3) I 3-bet the flop here.

Okay, all 3 of these hands were weird IMO.

Hand 1: Player seemed quite laggy, so I thought my hand was still good on the turn. River is probably a fold though. Villain shows T9 for the rivered straight.

Hand 2: We were fairly deep stacked, so I guess I could have called down from the flop without losing my whole stack. But I'm going to hate so many turn/river cards this plan kind of sucks. I guess folding or reraising are my only decent options on the flop. Villain showed QQ and I typed "nh, good enough" in the chat. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

Hand 3: Weird hand. The betting sequence was so weird I put him on the nuts or absolute air. Villain shows A5o and I take it down.